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The first post of a thread should not be able to be deleted. It just messes everything up when you delete the first post.
I think all posts should be editable forever. You need to have the ability to update the first post with new information like when something has changed with the original subject.
Aug 21, 2010, 5:59 AM
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I'm sorry if someone else has made the point I'm about to make, I already had to slog through three other threads just to understand the genesis behind all of this blather. So here's my opinion (and if it reinforces, reiterates, or repeats that of other's, then good):
This poll (and it's front page endorsement from the mod's) misses the crux of the issue: the role of the mod's and the ability to apologize.
Had a mod focused more on serving the members of RC.com and simply just apologized all of this would have stopped. Sure, other members of RC.com could have backed off too, that would have been civil, but that isn't their role. In contrast, mod's are given power to serve the needs of the RC.com community, not to serve their needs. If a mod oversteps his or her bounds and gets called on it, they should just apologize and let it go.
Put more simply: I voted for "no change" in the poll. If it had listed an option for "help mod's understand their role better" I would have checked that box instead.
Best of luck to everyone. Hopefully there is some sort of collective learning and catharsis that comes from this (though I doubt it).
The true "genesis" of this poll actually goes back much farther than recent events and is only following them so closely because if I had tried to raise the issue at some random point in the past, it would not have generated sitewide attention. In short, this discussion is simply capitalizing on recent events and does not directly stem from them.
Take the longstanding threat by Dingus to delete his posts for example. That has nothing at all to do with the mods or their role on here. The mods are unlikely to be the catalyst for the next tempertantrum that results in post deleting either.
I don't know if votes can be changed or not but you might want to reconsider the issue on it's own merits and not as it relates to this one incident.
Editeded to add - Nope, just looked and votes cannot be changed
He edited his post for christsakes! LAUGHABLE.
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You really are at a loss to mount an intelligible and accountable defense of your position on this issue aren't you?
Aug 21, 2010, 6:05 AM
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The first post of a thread should not be able to be deleted. It just messes everything up when you delete the first post.
I think all posts should be editable forever. You need to have the ability to update the first post with new information like when something has changed with the original subject.
The problem is that you can effectively delete a post by editing it away.
Perhaps it could be made so that the text of the original post would be unalterable but the poster could still add new text later on.
I think that is more complicated than is needed but it's an idea.
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One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
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Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
That's a lack of GU ethics, that's what that is.
But there is a difference between the I-don't-know-if-anyone-has-yet-said-this groaner and the fact that someone could edit a post on a prior page, and if you are active in the thread, you would not notice it.
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
That's a lack of GU ethics, that's what that is.
But there is a difference between the I-don't-know-if-anyone-has-yet-said-this groaner and the fact that someone could edit a post on a prior page, and if you are active in the thread, you would not notice it.
Aug 23, 2010, 9:11 PM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
That's a lack of GU ethics, that's what that is.
But there is a difference between the I-don't-know-if-anyone-has-yet-said-this groaner and the fact that someone could edit a post on a prior page, and if you are active in the thread, you would not notice it.
That's not what he meant at all.
True.
I'm like 90% of the posts here. I had a point I wanted to make and I didn't care where in the conversation it went. Sorry for the intrusion.
But to re-hit my point, if you are active in a thread, would you even notice an edit?
Aug 23, 2010, 9:15 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
That's a lack of GU ethics, that's what that is.
But there is a difference between the I-don't-know-if-anyone-has-yet-said-this groaner and the fact that someone could edit a post on a prior page, and if you are active in the thread, you would not notice it.
That's not what he meant at all.
True.
I'm like 90% of the posts here. I had a point I wanted to make and I didn't care where in the conversation it went. Sorry for the intrusion.
But to re-hit my point, if you are active in a thread, would you even notice an edit?
I'll delete this post later.
I agree, but I find a stiffer last better for really thin cracks. I can wedge the tip in, just the tip, and twist. Voila, foot hold. But yeah, for slab, I'm all for Stealth rubber.
Aug 23, 2010, 9:21 PM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
That's a lack of GU ethics, that's what that is.
But there is a difference between the I-don't-know-if-anyone-has-yet-said-this groaner and the fact that someone could edit a post on a prior page, and if you are active in the thread, you would not notice it.
That's not what he meant at all.
True.
I'm like 90% of the posts here. I had a point I wanted to make and I didn't care where in the conversation it went. Sorry for the intrusion.
But to re-hit my point, if you are active in a thread, would you even notice an edit?
I'll delete this post later.
I agree, but I find a stiffer last better for really thin cracks. I can wedge the tip in, just the tip, and twist. Voila, foot hold. But yeah, for slab, I'm all for Stealth rubber.
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And almost as good as trying to tempt a mod into editing my post.
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
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I hereby nominate gmburns to become a mod. He is without a doubt the greatest poster on this site!
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rrrADAM wrote:
One thing...
Some keep stating a reason to allow editing is in case soemone realizes that they posted something that was wrong... If someone has already replied after the [wrong] post/reply, the best thing to do is quote yourself (wrong stuff), then address/correct it in a later post.
I'm not convinced of that. Sometimes when I'm looking for info, if the first couple of pages have about the same answers consistently repeated, I won't bother with the rest of the thread.
Simply put, it's not worth reading every single page to see off-chance if a correction has been made somewhere down the line.
That's a lack of GU ethics, that's what that is.
But there is a difference between the I-don't-know-if-anyone-has-yet-said-this groaner and the fact that someone could edit a post on a prior page, and if you are active in the thread, you would not notice it.
That's not what he meant at all.
True.
I'm like 90% of the posts here. I had a point I wanted to make and I didn't care where in the conversation it went. Sorry for the intrusion.
But to re-hit my point, if you are active in a thread, would you even notice an edit?
I'll delete this post later.
I agree, but I find a stiffer last better for really thin cracks. I can wedge the tip in, just the tip, and twist. Voila, foot hold. But yeah, for slab, I'm all for Stealth rubber.
Golds are perfect hands for me. I used to not own a tv and it was great but now I have one. Metolius block chalk sticks to your hands better than endo.
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
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Can they really edit user's posts?
Can they? Yes.
Do they? Very, very, rarely
It's not EVER supposed to happen.
But it does happen. Nothing to be ashamed of. Its OK to acknowledge the power.
Heh, I actually thought the power had been revoked several years ago to tell you the truth. Wasn't until somebody else pointed it out that I realized it was still an option. One I won't use. It's not necessary
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
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I hereby nominate gmburns to become a mod. He is without a doubt the greatest poster on this site!
Quoted for posterity (posterior portion)?
MISQUOTING! BANZ HIM! BANZ HIM NOW!
Mine is the real post, he edited it after I hit quote. Really. Don't ban me, I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
philbox wrote:
I hereby nominate gmburns to become a mod. He is without a doubt the greatest poster on this site!
Quoted for posterity (posterior portion)?
MISQUOTING! BANZ HIM! BANZ HIM NOW!
Mine is the real post, he edited it after I hit quote. Really. Don't ban me, I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!
But think about it, you'd be a martyr in the RC.com fight against Subantz. Your memory wouldn't be forgotten. Well, yeah you would, but don't think about that.
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
philbox wrote:
I hereby nominate gmburns to become a mod. He is without a doubt the greatest poster on this site!
Quoted for posterity (posterior portion)?
MISQUOTING! BANZ HIM! BANZ HIM NOW!
Mine is the real post, he edited it after I hit quote. Really. Don't ban me, I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Arrogant_Bastard wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
philbox wrote:
I hereby nominate gmburns to become a mod. He is without a doubt the greatest poster on this site!
Quoted for posterity (posterior portion)?
MISQUOTING! BANZ HIM! BANZ HIM NOW!
Mine is the real post, he edited it after I hit quote. Really. Don't ban me, I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!
But think about it, you'd be a martyr in the RC.com fight against Subantz. Your memory wouldn't be forgotten. Well, yeah you would, but don't think about that.
Well then don't ban me. May I suggest cheezetiting every one of his quotes and put something interesting as the quote instead?
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climbs4fun wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
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Can they really edit user's posts?
Can they? Yes.
Do they? Very, very, rarely
It's not EVER supposed to happen.
But it does happen. Nothing to be ashamed of. Its OK to acknowledge the power.
Heh, I actually thought the power had been revoked several years ago to tell you the truth. Wasn't until somebody else pointed it out that I realized it was still an option. One I won't use. It's not necessary
Ah, but the option is still there becasue it might again be necessary.
Especially if a user can't edit their own posts, mods will get more requests to do so.
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