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jt512
Dec 26, 2010, 5:05 PM
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Kartessa wrote: Ok, since people aren't good at reading or thinking, I'll spell it out. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND ALL MY DAYS DOING NOTHING BUY CLIMBING It's freezing outside and climbing the same 20 routes on plastic, day in and day out sucks balls. You can tell me all you want that thats how you would do it, or that's how I should do it, or thats how your cousin is doing it. I want my activities to be have a certain VARIETY so that I actually enjoy myself and stay motivated. Please stop being retarded and insisting on me doing something I've stated 3 times already that I'm not interested in doing.
The only person in the thread who has demonstrated that they are not good at reading or thinking is you. Not only is no one suggesting that you spend "all [your] days doing nothing [but] climbing," no one is even suggesting that you increase your climbing time at all.
I hope you enjoy your current climbing level. It's pretty clear that that's the level you'll be climbing at at the end of your "30 days to kill it," whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean, anyway.
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j_ung
Dec 26, 2010, 5:09 PM
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Kartessa wrote: Ok, since people aren't good at reading or thinking, I'll spell it out. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND ALL MY DAYS DOING NOTHING BUY CLIMBING It's freezing outside and climbing the same 20 routes on plastic, day in and day out sucks balls. You can tell me all you want that thats how you would do it, or that's how I should do it, or thats how your cousin is doing it. I want my activities to be have a certain VARIETY so that I actually enjoy myself and stay motivated. Please stop being retarded and insisting on me doing something I've stated 3 times already that I'm not interested in doing.
I've now re-read the thread four times, and precisely zero people have suggested you do nothing but climb. Precisely zero people have suggested you even mostly climb. So, I respectfully suggest you get better at reading, thinking, being retarded and sucking balls. I also suggest you not ask for advice you don't actually want.
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styndall
Dec 26, 2010, 5:11 PM
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Kartessa wrote: Ok, since people aren't good at reading or thinking, I'll spell it out. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND ALL MY DAYS DOING NOTHING BUY CLIMBING It's freezing outside and climbing the same 20 routes on plastic, day in and day out sucks balls. You can tell me all you want that thats how you would do it, or that's how I should do it, or thats how your cousin is doing it. I want my activities to be have a certain VARIETY so that I actually enjoy myself and stay motivated. Please stop being retarded and insisting on me doing something I've stated 3 times already that I'm not interested in doing.
Either you can't read, or you're being intentionally antagonistic. Buying the book doesn't obligate you to spend you time climbing and only climbing. Rather, it'll just help you maximize the gains you get from whatever time you happen to spend climbing.
If you really want to kill it, as in get really, really strong, try out John Long's Workout From Hell. There isn't even any climbing involved, so you don't have to shout at anybody:
http://stuff.mit.edu/...andros/doc/TWFH.html
Otherwise, get a pair of gymnastics rings and hang them somewhere at chest height. Rings are fun and hella hard at first.
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Toast_in_the_Machine
Dec 27, 2010, 4:06 PM
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I think it all depends on what your goal is. If you have a specific goal for what you want after the month, then it is easy enough to design a program to help you meet that goal.
If you want to just spend a fun month being active, then just do that and don't worry about what the program looks like. Just wake up and go have fun.
If you have a goal (lose weight, improve climbing, get rippppp-ed, etc.) the simple answer is do as much as you can as focused as possible towards your goal.
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krusher4
Dec 27, 2010, 4:31 PM
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I'm just putting this out there.....It's not a very good idea to lie/hide not having a job from your wife.
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jbro_135
Dec 27, 2010, 5:25 PM
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Kartessa, you are crazy.
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spikeddem
Dec 27, 2010, 5:46 PM
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This thread is fucking hilarious
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spikeddem
Dec 27, 2010, 5:46 PM
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spikeddem wrote: This thread is fucking hilarious
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sp115
Dec 27, 2010, 6:26 PM
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spikeddem wrote: This thread is fucking hilarious
Yup, couldn't agree more.
Things I've learned in this thread:
- Kartessa has a big gun
- Canada apparently has at least a few tanks
- Clown Gang-bangs might be entertaining
- And at the end of January there is going to be an interesting conversation involving Kartessa and her significant other.
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John5
Dec 27, 2010, 7:38 PM
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sp115 wrote: spikeddem wrote: This thread is fucking hilarious - Canada apparently has at least a few tanks -.
What doea that mean?
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sp115
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John5 wrote: sp115 wrote: spikeddem wrote: This thread is fucking hilarious - Canada apparently has at least a few tanks -. What doea that mean?
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...tection__114624.html
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jape
Dec 28, 2010, 1:29 PM
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BooooooM! pwnage!
To "actually" address 30 days to kill it, in seriousness, you would likely have had to periodize a la mike andersons Rockprodigy article (on this site ftw!)...in which case you probably wouldn't have asked for advice at this point, you would be killing it in your peak cycle.
IMO, 30 days just isn't hardly any time to make the neurological, muscular, coordination, mental, etc. changes in your climbing to vastly improve unless you are very much a novice or have glaring gaping holes in your game that you fix in that time....but good luck in any case.
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sp115
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jape wrote: IMO, 30 days just isn't hardly any time to make the neurological, muscular, coordination, mental, etc. changes in your climbing to vastly improve unless you are very much a novice or have glaring gaping holes in your game that you fix in that time....but good luck in any case.
Heh, heh, I could lose 15-lbs in 30-days if I put my mind to it and that would make a noticable improvement in my climbing ability. But then again, I get the feeling Kartessa isn't a 46yo man with a beer belly...
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kachoong
Dec 28, 2010, 10:49 PM
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Kartessa wrote: j_ung wrote: Kartessa wrote: jt512 wrote: Kartessa wrote: Any input would be appreciated I just have the usual training advice: Get The Self-Coached Climber. Jay Thanks Jay, you're so helpful. Next time you can read the post and realise that I dont want to spend 8 hours a day in a climbing gym. Now I'm confused. Is the point of all this to become a better climber or not? It is the Technique & Training forum of a climbing site, after all. If that is the point, then I'll second the advice (assuming you don't already have the book). You certainly don't have to spend 8 hours a day in the climbing gym to see some benefit from it. It'll help you maximize the time you do spend there. Simply put, that book is the single best thing to ever come along for the average climber who wants to get better. If the point of all this isn't to become a better climber, well, it wasn't really clear. The idea is to get my overall fitness up because just training by climbing every day will take the joy out of climbing. In the end, I'd like to be stronger, a few pounds lighter, have greater endurance and play a solid mental game, all of these are great for pushing higher grades and doing longer routes.
I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with both the Jays here. Read the book! It's worth it and will give you some ideas while you're reading it during your library time.
I will also +1 the swimming... but try and swim for at least 45min-1hr, to keep your heart rate up. Ultimately that's what you want and since treadmills suck and you're in the deep white of Canadan winter and won't be wanting to trail run or peak bag.
Another option, which has worked for some, but can increase muscle all-over (not always optimal for a climber), is to start P90X. It works you hard for at least an hour a day... you'll only get part way through but once started you may want to continue with it.
To increase overall fitness requires a LOT of repetative stuff... probably the best thing to keep repeating for gains in climbing is to... climb repetatively.
My overall advice. Buy the above recommended book and read it... yoga and swim almost everyday (background fitness for cardio and weight loss) and train in the climbing gym on exercises and techniques outlined in the book in a rotation schedule that's best for you. Rest days are key, so listen to your body, eat well and modify your routine to suit.
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lhwang
Dec 29, 2010, 5:01 AM
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Most of the sample training plans in the Self coached climber only talk about climbing 4 days a week, maybe 3-6 hours at a time. And... hate to say it, but I'm a firm believer that if you want to get better at climbing, you're going to see the biggest gains from climbing a lot, not from cross training or losing a few pounds.
That being said, Kachoong beat me to it on the P90x suggestion. 30 days is enough to get through the first phase. I pulled a tendon in my finger a few months ago and couldn't climb for a while. I did P90x and noticed a huge change in my overall fitness level. The instructor is kind of annoying but you can mute most of his spiel.
Also, as other people have alluded, I think hiding this break from your family is a bad idea. But that's your business.
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Kartessa
Dec 30, 2010, 3:47 PM
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"kachoong wrote: I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with both the Jays here. Read the book! It's worth it and will give you some ideas while you're reading it during your library time. I will also +1 the swimming... but try and swim for at least 45min-1hr, to keep your heart rate up. Ultimately that's what you want and since treadmills suck and you're in the deep white of Canadan winter and won't be wanting to trail run or peak bag. Another option, which has worked for some, but can increase muscle all-over (not always optimal for a climber), is to start P90X. It works you hard for at least an hour a day... you'll only get part way through but once started you may want to continue with it. To increase overall fitness requires a LOT of repetative stuff... probably the best thing to keep repeating for gains in climbing is to... climb repetatively. My overall advice. Buy the above recommended book and read it... yoga and swim almost everyday (background fitness for cardio and weight loss) and train in the climbing gym on exercises and techniques outlined in the book in a rotation schedule that's best for you. Rest days are key, so listen to your body, eat well and modify your routine to suit.
Thank you, that's what I was looking for... something helpful.
Im hoping to put in 20hrs/week at the gym, have the book and will be sure to practice technique when nobody is looking.
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ChalkIsCheap
Dec 30, 2010, 6:41 PM
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Kartessa wrote: Ok, since people aren't good at reading or thinking, I'll spell it out. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND ALL MY DAYS DOING NOTHING BUY CLIMBING
Hey I got an idea. How about you climb more.
Read the self coached climber if you have it. If you don't maybe someone will get it for you for your birthday.
I find that I don't get much of a workout after climbing so a post climbing workout is always a plus for me. Focus on those area's that will benifit climbing but do not get targeted by climbing.
Watch your eating habits and try to find the areas where you can make improvements.
Do not forget to work on the legs too, a lot of your moves should primarily be done with your legs. Hit up some of the great staircases in the surrounding area, ie stadium laps. Get creative and see what you can come up with...
+1 to P90X never tried it but heard nothing but great things about it.
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Kartessa
Dec 30, 2010, 7:02 PM
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Imma cut you
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Kartessa
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krusher4 wrote: I'm just putting this out there.....It's not a very good idea to lie/hide not having a job from your wife. |
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Has it been killed?
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DRDTbone wrote: Has it been killed?
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You mention a lil one. That makes running down to a warm sunny spot to hang out out of the question usually. That would be my #1 thought. Head to Joshua Tree or where ever. In either case, you are most likely heading back to work soon. I hope you focused on doing things you like, and incorporating them into your workout. Way back when my little one was less than 60 lbs, before he grew up and went to college, I'd put the lil guy on my shoulders and do a speed hike, usually with my wife and daughter. If the daughter was there, it went slower and I'd ask to carry everyone's stuff in my backpack. Great times for the whole family.
PS, to those not clued in, the requester is a female. That is different than being a male in case anyone still is clueless.
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billcoe_ wrote: You mention a lil one. That makes running down to a warm sunny spot to hang out out of the question usually. That would be my #1 thought. Head to Joshua Tree or where ever. In either case, you are most likely heading back to work soon. I hope you focused on doing things you like, and incorporating them into your workout. Way back when my little one was less than 60 lbs, before he grew up and went to college, I'd put the lil guy on my shoulders and do a speed hike, usually with my wife and daughter. If the daughter was there, it went slower and I'd ask to carry everyone's stuff in my backpack. Great times for the whole family. PS, to those not clued in, the requester is a female. That is different than being a male in case anyone still is clueless.
That so funny, Kartessa does have parents and grandparents to watch her son, Now she is free to take a plane and go to Joshua or Red Rocks or Arizona and climb.
Canadian dollar being higher will get her more bang for her buck as well.
So why doesn't she go climb somewhere warm. It was 75 degrees F, in California.
If I didn't have to work and had more money I could easily go on a climbing road trip, In fact if you climb 5 days a week outside on different rocks and areas you get to be alot better quicker.
I enjoyed my climbing road trip so much and I traveled and met super nice friendly climbers everywhere I went. As well as got to spend some quality time with friends it was great.
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Kartessa, it seems that climbing is not for you. Perhaps there are some p90x websites, or yoga websites, or lawn darts websites that could give you a better perspective on your goals of improving your fitness, balance, or whatever.
But don't listen to the advice in this thread. All it will do is make you a better climber, and it's clear that you're not interested in that.
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Kartessa
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camhead wrote: Kartessa, it seems that climbing is not for you. Perhaps there are some p90x websites, or yoga websites, or lawn darts websites that could give you a better perspective on your goals of improving your fitness, balance, or whatever. But don't listen to the advice in this thread. All it will do is make you a better climber, and it's clear that you're not interested in that.
You're right. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Time to take up knitting.
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