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sbaclimber
Feb 13, 2011, 8:07 AM
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sp115 wrote: j_ung wrote: A guy posts to warn people of traps on trails, and all they can do is argue that the trap, which they have not seen, can't possibly be dangerous? This is not Maine. This is West Virginia. It's a third-world country. What's more, roninthorne's been around this weird block far longer than I have, and certainly far longer than the rest of you. He's no tree hugger and he's no idiot. If he says he saw a dangerous trap on a trail, then he saw a dangerous trap on a trail. End of story. I never called anyone an idiot, but the OP did because I called him on a story filled with hyperbole. He doesn't get a free pass because he has a problem with the fur-for-fashion crowd, hell no one around here with a conscience would argue with him on that. Had he manned-up in his second post, and said "OK, so I exaggerated a bit, but watch out I almost got my toe caught", no one would have piled on.
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sbaclimber
Feb 13, 2011, 9:10 AM
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j_ung wrote: Granted it wasn't the first post, but he did also say: In reply to: The guy who set this trap was NOT justy trying for coons... he was obviously angling for the bobcats and (possibly, according to the DNR) mountain lion which inhabit this region. Poachers often use legit trapping seasons to place non-legit traps for creatures which are NOT in season.... like the deer they shot to bait the second trap that the guys from DNR found about a dozen yards away.
That would still mean that the trappers themselves are complete idiots though.
(a Newhouse No. 4 1/2 is recommended for mountain lions, and still *only* has a jaw spread of 8")
Maybe the OP can point out which trap he found. I am honestly curious, 'cause something like a No. 15 would definitely smart a bit (still unlikely to break anyone's leg...).
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BClear
Feb 13, 2011, 11:16 AM
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Let me get this straight. You claim the trapsize open was approximately 16-18 inches and based on your trapping knowledge you think the target species could possibly have been bobcat? As a trapper I have one thing to say. Fail.
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BClear
Feb 13, 2011, 11:47 AM
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Yeah that was directed to the OP. It's pretty obvious from the OP that he likely stumbled across a coon setup, just from the proximity to the water. I know near a river is among the last places I'd set for bobcat in the middle of coon season lol. A poacher isn't going to be using a trap that runs a few hundred bucks unless he's after bear. And even then 99.999% of the time I guarantee you they'd set snares. Poachers are among the craftiest out there, they'd run a line and running a line with that kind of hardware is impossible these days. I'm not sure what the law is in West Virginia but I know here in Kentucky if you tamper with a legally set trap you just broke the law yourself and the DNR officer will slap you with a nice little citation in a heartbeat. I'm also pretty sure but not positive that WV lets you set on bait as long as its fifty feet away.
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j_ung
Feb 13, 2011, 1:43 PM
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Considering where we are, it's entirely possible the trapper paid 0$ for trap, and that it's a very old piece of hardware jury rigged with whatever garage fodder he could find to make it work.
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nkane
Feb 13, 2011, 5:05 PM
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[threadjack]
Trapps:
Trapping:
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notapplicable
Feb 14, 2011, 4:10 AM
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rockforlife wrote: How about this, you go on line( i would guess the trap has been moved) and find me a pic of the same kind and size of trap. I would like to see what you come up with.
I've spent a fair bit of time in the backwoods of WV myself and based on what I've seen, I'd guess the trap was similar to the one below. You guys can talk all the shit you want but I have little doubt that it would have done serious damage.
http://www.usedtraps.com/WebSitePictures/VictorTwoTrigger.jpg
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notapplicable
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nkane wrote: [threadjack] Trapps: Trapping: [/threadjack]
Not that^ is one trapp I wouldn't mind stumbling in to.
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sbaclimber
Feb 14, 2011, 8:32 AM
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notapplicable wrote: rockforlife wrote: How about this, you go on line( i would guess the trap has been moved) and find me a pic of the same kind and size of trap. I would like to see what you come up with. I've spent a fair bit of time in the backwoods of WV myself and based on what I've seen, I'd guess the trap was similar to the one below. You guys can talk all the shit you want but I have little doubt that it would have done serious damage. http://www.usedtraps.com/WebSitePictures/VictorTwoTrigger.jpg
A Conibear is body-hold though, not foot-hold...
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sp115
Feb 14, 2011, 11:59 AM
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notapplicable wrote: ...I've spent a fair bit of time in the backwoods of WV myself and based on what I've seen, I'd guess the trap was similar to the one below. You guys can talk all the shit you want but I have little doubt that it would have done serious damage. http://www.usedtraps.com/WebSitePictures/VictorTwoTrigger.jpg
That image just lowered my on-sight grade by three whole numbers.
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Gmburns2000
Feb 14, 2011, 2:23 PM
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notapplicable wrote: nkane wrote: [threadjack] Trapps: Trapping: [/threadjack] Not that^ is one trapp I wouldn't mind stumbling in to.
come to the 'Gunks and I shall lead you to danger show you the way
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shockabuku
Feb 14, 2011, 2:55 PM
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Eh, that looks like easy 5.8 at best.
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sandstoned
Feb 14, 2011, 3:10 PM
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notapplicable wrote: rockforlife wrote: How about this, you go on line( i would guess the trap has been moved) and find me a pic of the same kind and size of trap. I would like to see what you come up with. I've spent a fair bit of time in the backwoods of WV myself and based on what I've seen, I'd guess the trap was similar to the one below. You guys can talk all the shit you want but I have little doubt that it would have done serious damage. http://www.usedtraps.com/WebSitePictures/VictorTwoTrigger.jpg
HA! Now THAT is a trap. You would most certianly not walk away without some kind of damage.
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Gmburns2000
Feb 14, 2011, 3:48 PM
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shockabuku wrote: Eh, that looks like easy 5.8 at best.
It is. It only gets a + because it's kind of steep.
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shockabuku
Feb 14, 2011, 3:53 PM
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I know, I was looking for a more interesting response than just the truth!
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ckirkwood9
Feb 14, 2011, 4:21 PM
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i love this:
just start out by having a tall, cold glass of STFU
HEHEHHE.... LOVE it! :)
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xtrmecat
Feb 14, 2011, 6:30 PM
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To the Op. Bullshit on many parts of your story. Lamest troll so far this year. Research could be your friend, as my grandson even says bullshit.
Burly Bob
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justroberto
Feb 14, 2011, 8:55 PM
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This site is hilarious sometimes.
While the OP does have a penchant for hyperbole (particularly when it comes to his beloved home crags) he's not they type of dude to troll. It's not an inflammatory topic, it's posted in a regional thread, and who in the world would he be trying to hook? If it were, the only people who bit are the ones who claim he's trolling and lying, and they should feel a little silly for getting worked up about it.
He saw a trap in WV and reminded people wandering around the wonderful wilds of West-by-Gawd to keep an eye out. That's all there is to it.
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sbaclimber
Feb 14, 2011, 9:03 PM
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justroberto wrote: He saw a trap in WV and reminded people wandering around the wonderful wilds of West-by-Gawd to keep an eye out. That's all there is to it.
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csproul
Feb 14, 2011, 9:59 PM
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Grizzly Adams lives!! I'm amazed by the number of people responding to this thread that have (or claim to have) done some trapping! Maybe it's the circles I live in, but I can't think of one person I've ever met who has set an animal trap of any kind. I kind assumed it was a lost art. Trap on.
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sbaclimber
Feb 14, 2011, 10:15 PM
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csproul wrote: Maybe it's the circles I live in, but I can't think of one person I've ever met who has set an animal trap of any kind. I kind assumed it was a lost art. Trap on.
I grew up in the woods and my father was a trapper, so it was one of the many other outdoor activities I pursued before discovering climbing.
(This post was edited by sbaclimber on Feb 14, 2011, 10:17 PM)
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