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Toast_in_the_Machine
Jul 27, 2011, 10:32 PM
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cracklover wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: cracklover wrote: jt512 wrote: cracklover wrote: Learner shares a number of traits with codefrog. Def not the same people, but similar mode. Why definitely not? Jay No hard evidence, it's just that they seem to take different means to the same ends. Both take the "I'm a n00b, please take my hand" shtick, but don't you remember the voluminous effervescence of schmaltz codefrog would pour out? Learner is much more hard-edged. Of course they could both be Dingus, he's more than talented enough. Except that I don't think he has any motivation to troll this cesspool. GO Codefrog was / is a real person, it was his photos that doomed his follow up account. We may need to dig out the language analyzer from that thread. As for the D man, my guess is that he is still buthrtz from whomever here and will just stay away. Also, unlike stalking angry (hi!), I can't see if D has logged in recently or not. Codefrog made very little effort to keep his second account hidden. He actually PMed me to tell me it was him, IIRC. The only really weird thing about all that was him sharing his login credentials with other users, so that codefrog version 2.0 was a them, not a him. GO
Codefrog 1 was banzed for sharing credentials. Codefrog 2 was banzed for coming back after being banzed.
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jt512
Jul 27, 2011, 10:40 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: cracklover wrote: jt512 wrote: cracklover wrote: Learner shares a number of traits with codefrog. Def not the same people, but similar mode. Why definitely not? Jay No hard evidence, it's just that they seem to take different means to the same ends. Both take the "I'm a n00b, please take my hand" shtick, but don't you remember the voluminous effervescence of schmaltz codefrog would pour out? Learner is much more hard-edged. Of course they could both be Dingus, he's more than talented enough. Except that I don't think he has any motivation to troll this cesspool. GO Codefrog was / is a real person, it was his photos that doomed his follow up account. We may need to dig out the language analyzer from that thread. As for the D man, my guess is that he is still buthrtz from whomever here and will just stay away.
Dingus last logged in (under that username, anyway) on April 11.
Jay
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jt512
Jul 27, 2011, 10:44 PM
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cracklover wrote: jt512 wrote: cracklover wrote: Learner shares a number of traits with codefrog. Def not the same people, but similar mode. Why definitely not? Jay No hard evidence, it's just that they seem to take different means to the same ends. Both take the "I'm a n00b, please take my hand" shtick, but don't you remember the voluminous effervescence of schmaltz codefrog would pour out? Learner is much more hard-edged.
Could be they tweaked his meds.
Jay
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jt512
Jul 27, 2011, 10:47 PM
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sungam wrote: jt512 wrote: cracklover wrote: Learner shares a number of traits with codefrog. Def not the same people, but similar mode. Why definitely not? Jay Still convinced, huh? I am not leaning too far either way. Could go either way.
I've never really been convinced. It's just a hypothesis based on similar posting style, profession, and proclivity to send me random PMs.
Jay
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sungam
Jul 27, 2011, 10:57 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: cracklover wrote: jt512 wrote: cracklover wrote: Learner shares a number of traits with codefrog. Def not the same people, but similar mode. Why definitely not? Jay No hard evidence, it's just that they seem to take different means to the same ends. Both take the "I'm a n00b, please take my hand" shtick, but don't you remember the voluminous effervescence of schmaltz codefrog would pour out? Learner is much more hard-edged. Of course they could both be Dingus, he's more than talented enough. Except that I don't think he has any motivation to troll this cesspool. GO Codefrog was / is a real person, it was his photos that doomed his follow up account. We may need to dig out the language analyzer from that thread. As for the D man, my guess is that he is still buthrtz from whomever here and will just stay away. Also, unlike stalking angry (hi!), I can't see if D has logged in recently or not.
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chilli
Jul 28, 2011, 12:48 AM
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altelis wrote: ... My point was more that the general argument of "it's not the breed it's the owner" seems, generally, to be contrary to my experience. Your explanation that it's the owners looking for aggressive dogs reinforcing those traits through their interaction with the dog, as well as through selective breeding isnt (as I understand it) fully separate from my point. I think mine includes yours.
wow, 12 pages in no time! too bad i don't have time to see where the conversation went.
anyway, my point was more that the breed carries with it a stigma, and that reputation gets people with poor intentions attracted to the breed. Then they reinforce any aggressive behavior and the cycle perpetuates.
On the other hand you're right in the assumption that there has been a bifurcation (multi, if you include AKC/show lines) of breeding in divergent goals for pit breeds (aggressive/security/fighting vs. a loyal fun companion).
of course, there's some ebb and flow during which the lines get blurred and then we're basically back to the old nature vs. nurture question.
overall though, i'd say your observation was pretty astute in that our statements are mutually entwined... as long as we keep in mind that it's really a multifactorial matter. I feel like you appreciate that and thank you for it.
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sungam
Jul 28, 2011, 12:54 AM
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Thanks for the PM, Toast. My ego is back up to it's good old obnoxious self.
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Kartessa
Jul 28, 2011, 2:20 AM
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chilli wrote: altelis wrote: ... My point was more that the general argument of "it's not the breed it's the owner" seems, generally, to be contrary to my experience. Your explanation that it's the owners looking for aggressive dogs reinforcing those traits through their interaction with the dog, as well as through selective breeding isnt (as I understand it) fully separate from my point. I think mine includes yours. wow, 12 pages in no time! too bad i don't have time to see where the conversation went. anyway, my point was more that the breed carries with it a stigma, and that reputation gets people with poor intentions attracted to the breed. Then they reinforce any aggressive behavior and the cycle perpetuates. On the other hand you're right in the assumption that there has been a bifurcation (multi, if you include AKC/show lines) of breeding in divergent goals for pit breeds (aggressive/security/fighting vs. a loyal fun companion). of course, there's some ebb and flow during which the lines get blurred and then we're basically back to the old nature vs. nurture question. overall though, i'd say your observation was pretty astute in that our statements are mutually entwined... as long as we keep in mind that it's really a multifactorial matter. I feel like you appreciate that and thank you for it.
Wow... are you ever out of the loop!
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JoeHamilton
Jul 28, 2011, 2:35 AM
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dang we are back to the dogs ? I only left work and drove home .
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sungam
Jul 28, 2011, 11:00 AM
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jt512 wrote: sungam wrote: So please stop acting like we are a bunch of asshole who jump on people for no reason whatsoever. We always wait until there is at least some reason. There's a signature for someone! Jay
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chilli
Jul 29, 2011, 3:39 AM
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Kartessa wrote: Wow... are you ever out of the loop!
if you're referring to the delayed response, yep. i stay pretty busy, so it's rare i get on the site and a real anomaly to be on posting a few times in a week. so yeah, out of the loop.
if you're referring to the content of the posts, screw it. i'm not going down that road w/ you.
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Kartessa
Jul 29, 2011, 3:50 AM
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Why won't you come play with me?!?!?
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sungam
Jul 29, 2011, 8:55 AM
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Kartessa wrote: Why won't you come play with me?!?!?
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Kartessa
Jul 29, 2011, 12:34 PM
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sungam wrote: Kartessa wrote: Why won't you come play with me?!?!? \this site's ratings will SOAR when you finsih up that desk job, K!
Why?
Is it because I'll be climbing rather than posting again?
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sungam
Jul 29, 2011, 1:03 PM
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Kartessa wrote: sungam wrote: Kartessa wrote: Why won't you come play with me?!?!? \this site's ratings will SOAR when you finsih up that desk job, K! Why? Is it because I'll be climbing rather than posting again? 
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Kartessa
Jul 29, 2011, 1:16 PM
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I am finding it funny how my anger, bitchiness, contempt, sarcasm and general cynicism has spread to other users.
At least mine is just for jokes.
See the RC:IRL Asshole index... mine is somewhere around 80:20
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Kartessa
Jul 29, 2011, 1:16 PM
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That is, of course, unless you're a shitty belayer or an asshole who lays topropes all over the crag.
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Toast_in_the_Machine
Jul 29, 2011, 1:28 PM
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Kartessa wrote: That is, of course, unless you're a shitty belayer or an asshole who lays topropes all over the crag.
Or blocks your driveway.
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Kartessa
Jul 29, 2011, 2:07 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: Kartessa wrote: That is, of course, unless you're a shitty belayer or an asshole who lays topropes all over the crag. Or blocks your driveway.
The driveway blocker is beyond asshole... they've been upgraded to full-on douchebag status.
I was thinking about laying down nails next week 
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