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spikeddem wrote: JoeHamilton wrote: hahaha I weigh in at 135 lbs on a good day and cant gain over that .I eat alot of chicken(baked and grilled) steak once a week ,angus burgers , dont like vegies but drink my V8 twice a day .and enjoy my share of junky fatning fast food. Does breaking out the caculator and reading every nutrition lable really help . I dont want get fat ,but 15-20 more lbs would look good . Adding 15-20 lbs of muscle will not help you send harder. Moreover, it will put plenty of extra strain on your fingers.
Yeah, you're lucky. I struggle to stay below 200 and would love to lose 15-20 lbs(OK more like 50).
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Not everyone who likes to climb is willing to "look like a climber" in order to achieve climbing aspirations. It's just a matter of priority.
Granted, being able to bench press a great amount is probably not going to do anything but hurt your climbing, but climbing may not be that person's priority. There are some freaks out there that can look like a linebacker and still climb crazily, but those exceptions are not the general rule.
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jt512
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camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories.
So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is.
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jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay
his carbs.
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drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs.
Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either.
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camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either.
you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs.
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jt512
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camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either.
So, what's your average daily caloric intake then? Or maybe I should ask why you think it's much different than that.
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lol,,, I want them lbs just to look more buff for the ladies .lol I do trully love and appreciate my size when it comes to climbing and cycling
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callie104 wrote: Hi, I started climbing in January, and I've kind of become obsessed. I'm working v4's and 5's in the gym, leading 5.10's, and projecting 5.11's on top-rope. I'm incredibly impressed with myself because I couldn't do a single pull-up until a couple of months ago and never thought I would be able to climb. I realize this is a pretty broad question, but what can I do to get better and maybe even be sponsored one day? Is it easier for women to become sponsored? Are there any training techniques up for recommendation? Is there generally a time frame at which someone reaches their "peak," or is climbing something that one can continually improve at? Thanks for any and all friendly input. :)
http://www.rockclimbing.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25;
And I noticed in the member directory that Gabe had logged on about a month ago so he might respond to a PM
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I was thinking usaully not a good thing for me ,but hell try something diffrent ,1 compette some ,2 go after a sponser not many are useing yet .Like maybe send some cool pics to say GATER AID ,tell them of your efforts and compitions . Inform them of how YOU could help them sell there G2 series if they advertised in climbing magazines showing you . Include some pics of you useing all three stages of their product ... BANG ,magazines,free gator aid ,and some notariety when your traveling to gymsand climbing spots bring out and giveing away samples ....
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JoeHamilton wrote: I was thinking usaully not a good thing for me ,but hell try something diffrent ,1 compette some ,2 go after a sponser not many are useing yet .Like maybe send some cool pics to say GATER AID ,tell them of your efforts and compitions . Inform them of how YOU could help them sell there G2 series if they advertised in climbing magazines showing you . Include some pics of you useing all three stages of their product ... BANG ,magazines,free gator aid ,and some notariety when your traveling to gymsand climbing spots bring out and giveing away samples ....
For godsakes, man, first you type the word, then you type the comma, then and only then do you type the space. Got it? Finally? It's really not that hard.
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jt512 wrote: JoeHamilton wrote: I was thinking usaully not a good thing for me ,but hell try something diffrent ,1 compette some ,2 go after a sponser not many are useing yet .Like maybe send some cool pics to say GATER AID ,tell them of your efforts and compitions . Inform them of how YOU could help them sell there G2 series if they advertised in climbing magazines showing you . Include some pics of you useing all three stages of their product ... BANG ,magazines,free gator aid ,and some notariety when your traveling to gymsand climbing spots bring out and giveing away samples .... For godsakes, man, first you type the word, then you type the comma, then and only then do you type the space. Got it? Finally? It's really not that hard.
It's funny because it's troo.
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lmao, Sorry, guess thats one set back I haven't masterd yet. Thankyou for pointing it out. So, is it like that? lol I'll try to keep it mind.
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climbingtrash wrote: jt512 wrote: JoeHamilton wrote: I was thinking usaully not a good thing for me ,but hell try something diffrent ,1 compette some ,2 go after a sponser not many are useing yet .Like maybe send some cool pics to say GATER AID ,tell them of your efforts and compitions . Inform them of how YOU could help them sell there G2 series if they advertised in climbing magazines showing you . Include some pics of you useing all three stages of their product ... BANG ,magazines,free gator aid ,and some notariety when your traveling to gymsand climbing spots bring out and giveing away samples .... For godsakes, man, first you type the word, then you type the comma, then and only then do you type the space. Got it? Finally? It's really not that hard. It's funny because it's troo.
enigma
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dmwj80
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stealth
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joe hamilton
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Seems like all these guys went to the same school ,lol .
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spikeddem wrote: guangzhou wrote: A few companies have kept me in great gear for about a decade now. I don't climb hard, I avoid dangerous, and I am not what anyone would consider sexy or handsome. Liar. We've seen your "my new climbing gym is being build" dance.
I don't understand how the two are related. I have been getting free gear since the late 90"s. First because I ran aguide service and the shoe company felt having their shoes on my feet might convince my clients that those were the shoes. Shoes came from regional reps.
After moving to Asia, I started getting free shoes, cams, and other hardware from Distributors. Mostly because I put up between 100 and 200 new routes a year. Only had money given to help pay for a trip into northern China to establish some routes.
About a year ago, my business partner and I got the ball rolling on a new climbing gym. This is purely for making money, it's a business. Not sure what it has to do with my original post.
To make this gym happen, I picked up a few climbing companies to represent here in Indonesia. As the distributor of these companies, I can recruit climbers and choose to sponsor them. I have. My gym also has a sponsorship program, and we're developing a sponsorship program for people developing new routes or crags in Indonesia.
What do I look for in a sponsored climber. Active Active active. A climber that relates to people and isn't arrogant, one who works on making climbing more accessible, one who works on developing new routes, and climbers actively involved in helping keep current climbing areas open or safe.
One climber I sponsor as both a climbing gym and a distributor is currently in Arco. Big comp...
What do most people get, free gear. A pair or shoes or a harness. In some case, we help pay for a trip in the form of a grant.
As for my gym, well, we're hanging 7000 handholds this week and next.
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guangzhou wrote: spikeddem wrote: guangzhou wrote: A few companies have kept me in great gear for about a decade now. I don't climb hard, I avoid dangerous, and I am not what anyone would consider sexy or handsome. Liar. We've seen your "my new climbing gym is being build" dance. I don't understand how the two are related. I have been getting free gear since the late 90"s. First because I ran aguide service and the shoe company felt having their shoes on my feet might convince my clients that those were the shoes. Shoes came from regional reps. After moving to Asia, I started getting free shoes, cams, and other hardware from Distributors. Mostly because I put up between 100 and 200 new routes a year. Only had money given to help pay for a trip into northern China to establish some routes. About a year ago, my business partner and I got the ball rolling on a new climbing gym. This is purely for making money, it's a business. Not sure what it has to do with my original post. To make this gym happen, I picked up a few climbing companies to represent here in Indonesia. As the distributor of these companies, I can recruit climbers and choose to sponsor them. I have. My gym also has a sponsorship program, and we're developing a sponsorship program for people developing new routes or crags in Indonesia. What do I look for in a sponsored climber. Active Active active. A climber that relates to people and isn't arrogant, one who works on making climbing more accessible, one who works on developing new routes, and climbers actively involved in helping keep current climbing areas open or safe. One climber I sponsor as both a climbing gym and a distributor is currently in Arco. Big comp... What do most people get, free gear. A pair or shoes or a harness. In some case, we help pay for a trip in the form of a grant. As for my gym, well, we're hanging 7000 handholds this week and next. E
My comment was regarding the part about being sexy.
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JoeHamilton wrote: lmao, Sorry, guess thats one set back I haven't masterd yet. Thankyou for pointing it out. So, is it like that? lol I'll try to keep it mind.
Yes!
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drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs.
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granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs. But I'm also enjoying the bounties of summer right now and eating all the fresh fruit and veggies I can get my hands on, so that'll potentially change when the weather cools down.
i eat way the hell more than the "recommended" amount of protein. but i personally feel less hungry when I'm trying to maintain a calorie deficit if a lot of a the calories I do eat are protein. (like in the 25-30% of total daily calorie range.) since I currently weigh 89% of what I weighed a year ago, I feel like I'm doing pretty good.
and you get to eat all the veggies you want. it's a rule.
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granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs.
You're already consuming more than the recommended amount of protein. Why do you think you should be consuming still more?
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jt512 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs. You're already consuming more than the recommended amount of protein. Why do you think you should be consuming still more? Jay
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i thought you were the one who's all like "if you're trying to lose weight and retain muscle, eat ~30% calories from protein"??
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drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs. You're already consuming more than the recommended amount of protein. Why do you think you should be consuming still more? Jay ?? i thought you were the one who's all like "if you're trying to lose weight and retain muscle, eat ~30% calories from protein"??
That's true if and only if you are in negative energy balance. GG didn't say that she was, or if she did, I missed it.
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jt512 wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs. You're already consuming more than the recommended amount of protein. Why do you think you should be consuming still more? Jay ?? i thought you were the one who's all like "if you're trying to lose weight and retain muscle, eat ~30% calories from protein"?? That's true if and only if you are in negative energy balance. GG didn't say that she was, or if she did, I missed it. Jay
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granite_grrl wrote: jt512 wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs. You're already consuming more than the recommended amount of protein. Why do you think you should be consuming still more? Jay ?? i thought you were the one who's all like "if you're trying to lose weight and retain muscle, eat ~30% calories from protein"?? That's true if and only if you are in negative energy balance. GG didn't say that she was, or if she did, I missed it. Jay I didn't say so in this thread. I've been trying to lose weight via limiting calories and exercise in another thread that Drivel participates in.
18% is probably below optimal for lean body mass retention if you're dieting. 23% is in the ballpark. You might want to bump it up a bit. A good lean protein powder can be useful.
Jay
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drivel
Jul 22, 2011, 7:42 PM
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jt512 wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: granite_grrl wrote: drivel wrote: camhead wrote: drivel wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: camhead wrote: Protein powder works for me. I try to have the majority of my food be from fruits/veggies and protein, at least 75-100g/day. No simple carbs, and the few carbs I do have are complex, eaten the night before a big project or something like that. Fruits are "carbs," simple ones at that. If your carbohydrate intake is as low as you imply, and your stated protein intake is accurate, then fat must account for 60–70% of your calories. What's the point of that? Jay Sorry, I guess I should have said "starchy grains" instead of carbs. And most of my protein comes from whey powders, fish and/or chicken, egg whites, and nuts. Fat does not add up to anywhere near 70% of my calories. So, if you're consuming 2500 kcal/day, then 100 g/day of protein would be 16% of your total energy intake, leaving 84% to be accounted for by fat and carbohydrate (ignoring alcohol). It's seems like either your fat intake or your carbohydrate intake is higher than you might think it is. Jay his carbs. Yeah, I never quanitified how many carbs I was taking in, or anything else other than the protein. I never said that I was consuming 2500 kcals/day, either. you did say "few carbs." and that's probably not really true. i bet you're something like 20% protein, 30% fat and 50% carbs. I should be taking in more protein....I get 15-20% fat, 18-23% protein and the rest in carbs. You're already consuming more than the recommended amount of protein. Why do you think you should be consuming still more? Jay ?? i thought you were the one who's all like "if you're trying to lose weight and retain muscle, eat ~30% calories from protein"?? That's true if and only if you are in negative energy balance. GG didn't say that she was, or if she did, I missed it. Jay
your answer came off kind of sneery (surprise!), like "what makes you think that eating that much protein would ever be a good idea?"
and I was like... I'm pretty sure there ARE legit reasons for doing that. (and, you didn't snipe at my answer, which listed a far higher % than gg did.)
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