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jt512
Mar 18, 2012, 6:11 AM
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USnavy wrote: You simply did not understand what I wrote. I said PTPP is the single most experienced aid climber in the world, I did not say he was the best. I am well aware of the basic history to wall elitists in Yosemite and I am aware that Ammon likely holds the title of best wall climber in YOS. PTPP is the most experienced in that he has more nights logged on El Cap than anyone else. We could all argue what’s constitutes experience, but most people use time as a measurement of experience. So in PTPP's case, he has more time on El Cap then anyone, thus he is the most experienced.
Oddly enough, I made the same argument facetiously.
Jay
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socalclimber
Mar 18, 2012, 12:34 PM
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USnavy wrote: socalclimber wrote: USnavy wrote: camhead wrote: chadnsc wrote: jt512 wrote: USnavy wrote: sungam wrote: Pete got the banz, but that looks a nice little piece of kit you made. The banz? Doubt it, I think he realized how rc.com rolls and decided he has better things to do. Thats pretty much the conclusion most people make, I dont see many of the regulars from the last few years on here anymore. He was, in fact, banned. Jay Yup, pervert-PTPP was banzed. It was a bit before my time but those us that know why aren't allowed to say anything about it here less we also get the threat of perma-banz. Just ask Curt. And yeah, US Navy has no depth whatsoever, but we all knew that already. I may not know anything about his rc.com account, but I have climbed with PTPP in Yosemite. Granted I dident do a full wall with him, I just climbed a few pitches with him on El Cap, but he did not strike me as the big shit talker type. He was pretty chill and self-contained, despite being the single most experienced wall climber on the face of this planet. After seeing all the constant shit talking and off topic trolling on here, I kind of came to the conclusion that you have to really piss DDT off to get banned. Directed to US Navy: Sorry, but you just outed yourself for the noob that you are. Please Touch my Penis Pete is the biggest wall poser ever to "grace" the valley. Maybe you should start doing your homework on the REAL history of El Cap climbing and start looking for names like Steve Gerberding, Steve Grossman, Tucker Tech, Wally Barker, Walt Shipley, Ammon McNeeley, Steve Sutton, Hugh Burton, Mike Lechlinski etc etc etc. Pete got exactly what he wanted out of you, confirmation of something he is not. Pete has made a "career" of standing on the shoulders of giants. I know a number of these people, they are the real deal. Pete is not. You were just fooled into thinking he is. Christ, Tucker Tech who is one of my best friends, did 4 El Cap routes solo in under a month. This means he went up the wall, came down, re-supplied, and took off again. Nobody has accomplished anything like that before. I imagine you are not aware that Pete's real valley nick name is Soon To Be Buried In a Shallow Grave In El Cap Meadow Pete. It's clear there is a lot you don't know. EDITED: I can't believe of all people to forget, Jim Bridwell. We all know what a pussy he is. I know Jim Bridwell. He's a friend of mine. pass the pitions pete is no Jim Bridwell. By any measure of any yard stick. You simply did not understand what I wrote. I said PTPP is the single most experienced aid climber in the world, I did not say he was the best. I am well aware of the basic history to wall elitists in Yosemite and I am aware that Ammon likely holds the title of best wall climber in YOS. I know the basic history of most of the people you named. But my point was that PTPP is the most experienced in that he has more nights logged on El Cap than anyone else. We could all argue what’s constitutes experience, but most people use time as a measurement of experience ("I've been doing this for xx years".) So in PTPP's case, he has more time on El Cap then anyone. So if time is a measurement of experience, he takes the cake. But none the less, regardless of how experienced he is or is not, he has climbed A5, a title rather few can claim.
Pete hasn't done jack shit on El Cap.
Oh I clearly understood what you said. What you clearly do not understand is that pete hasn't done shit in terms of hard A5 anything on El Cap or anywhere else. He just wants people to think he has. Sure, pete has logged a ton of time on the wall. He has yet to really get on the truly hard scary routes that very few even think of doing. Wally Barker Spent close to 30 days living on a wall on Trango Tower doing a first ascent. REAL A5. I don't think that route has ever seen a repeat. Wally also did early or first solo ascents of all the hardest test pieces solo on El Cap. Pete has yet to even try those routes. Gerberding has more El Cap routes under his belt than anyone alive, including first ascents. Pete, regardless of what he claims, hasn't done shit on El Cap. Bridwell has spent more time off the ground on walls than most people spend at the deli or the lodge. Eric Kohl has put up some of the most disturbing real A5 routes in the valley. Pete has done nothing other than stand on their shoulders.
My advice to you is to keep your mouth shut around the valley about Pete. You'll only be met with blank stares of disbelief. He has zero respect from anyone in the know.
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curt
Mar 18, 2012, 9:05 PM
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USnavy wrote: socalclimber wrote: USnavy wrote: camhead wrote: chadnsc wrote: jt512 wrote: USnavy wrote: sungam wrote: Pete got the banz, but that looks a nice little piece of kit you made. The banz? Doubt it, I think he realized how rc.com rolls and decided he has better things to do. Thats pretty much the conclusion most people make, I dont see many of the regulars from the last few years on here anymore. He was, in fact, banned. Jay Yup, pervert-PTPP was banzed. It was a bit before my time but those us that know why aren't allowed to say anything about it here less we also get the threat of perma-banz. Just ask Curt. And yeah, US Navy has no depth whatsoever, but we all knew that already. I may not know anything about his rc.com account, but I have climbed with PTPP in Yosemite. Granted I dident do a full wall with him, I just climbed a few pitches with him on El Cap, but he did not strike me as the big shit talker type. He was pretty chill and self-contained, despite being the single most experienced wall climber on the face of this planet. After seeing all the constant shit talking and off topic trolling on here, I kind of came to the conclusion that you have to really piss DDT off to get banned. Directed to US Navy: Sorry, but you just outed yourself for the noob that you are. Please Touch my Penis Pete is the biggest wall poser ever to "grace" the valley. Maybe you should start doing your homework on the REAL history of El Cap climbing and start looking for names like Steve Gerberding, Steve Grossman, Tucker Tech, Wally Barker, Walt Shipley, Ammon McNeeley, Steve Sutton, Hugh Burton, Mike Lechlinski etc etc etc. Pete got exactly what he wanted out of you, confirmation of something he is not. Pete has made a "career" of standing on the shoulders of giants. I know a number of these people, they are the real deal. Pete is not. You were just fooled into thinking he is. Christ, Tucker Tech who is one of my best friends, did 4 El Cap routes solo in under a month. This means he went up the wall, came down, re-supplied, and took off again. Nobody has accomplished anything like that before. I imagine you are not aware that Pete's real valley nick name is Soon To Be Buried In a Shallow Grave In El Cap Meadow Pete. It's clear there is a lot you don't know. EDITED: I can't believe of all people to forget, Jim Bridwell. We all know what a pussy he is. I know Jim Bridwell. He's a friend of mine. pass the pitions pete is no Jim Bridwell. By any measure of any yard stick. You simply did not understand what I wrote. I said PTPP is the single most experienced aid climber in the world, I did not say he was the best. I am well aware of the basic history to wall elitists in Yosemite and I am aware that Ammon likely holds the title of best wall climber in YOS. I know the basic history of most of the people you named. But my point was that PTPP is the most experienced in that he has more nights logged on El Cap than anyone else. We could all argue what’s constitutes experience, but most people use time as a measurement of experience ("I've been doing this for xx years".) So in PTPP's case, he has more time on El Cap then anyone. So if time is a measurement of experience, he takes the cake. But none the less, regardless of how experienced he is or is not, he has climbed A5, a title rather few can claim.
When you are clearly proven wrong, your best bet is to either:
1) Admit it.
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2) Say no more.
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USnavy
Mar 19, 2012, 6:55 AM
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socalclimber wrote: USnavy wrote: socalclimber wrote: USnavy wrote: camhead wrote: chadnsc wrote: jt512 wrote: USnavy wrote: sungam wrote: Pete got the banz, but that looks a nice little piece of kit you made. The banz? Doubt it, I think he realized how rc.com rolls and decided he has better things to do. Thats pretty much the conclusion most people make, I dont see many of the regulars from the last few years on here anymore. He was, in fact, banned. Jay Yup, pervert-PTPP was banzed. It was a bit before my time but those us that know why aren't allowed to say anything about it here less we also get the threat of perma-banz. Just ask Curt. And yeah, US Navy has no depth whatsoever, but we all knew that already. I may not know anything about his rc.com account, but I have climbed with PTPP in Yosemite. Granted I dident do a full wall with him, I just climbed a few pitches with him on El Cap, but he did not strike me as the big shit talker type. He was pretty chill and self-contained, despite being the single most experienced wall climber on the face of this planet. After seeing all the constant shit talking and off topic trolling on here, I kind of came to the conclusion that you have to really piss DDT off to get banned. Directed to US Navy: Sorry, but you just outed yourself for the noob that you are. Please Touch my Penis Pete is the biggest wall poser ever to "grace" the valley. Maybe you should start doing your homework on the REAL history of El Cap climbing and start looking for names like Steve Gerberding, Steve Grossman, Tucker Tech, Wally Barker, Walt Shipley, Ammon McNeeley, Steve Sutton, Hugh Burton, Mike Lechlinski etc etc etc. Pete got exactly what he wanted out of you, confirmation of something he is not. Pete has made a "career" of standing on the shoulders of giants. I know a number of these people, they are the real deal. Pete is not. You were just fooled into thinking he is. Christ, Tucker Tech who is one of my best friends, did 4 El Cap routes solo in under a month. This means he went up the wall, came down, re-supplied, and took off again. Nobody has accomplished anything like that before. I imagine you are not aware that Pete's real valley nick name is Soon To Be Buried In a Shallow Grave In El Cap Meadow Pete. It's clear there is a lot you don't know. EDITED: I can't believe of all people to forget, Jim Bridwell. We all know what a pussy he is. I know Jim Bridwell. He's a friend of mine. pass the pitions pete is no Jim Bridwell. By any measure of any yard stick. You simply did not understand what I wrote. I said PTPP is the single most experienced aid climber in the world, I did not say he was the best. I am well aware of the basic history to wall elitists in Yosemite and I am aware that Ammon likely holds the title of best wall climber in YOS. I know the basic history of most of the people you named. But my point was that PTPP is the most experienced in that he has more nights logged on El Cap than anyone else. We could all argue what’s constitutes experience, but most people use time as a measurement of experience ("I've been doing this for xx years".) So in PTPP's case, he has more time on El Cap then anyone. So if time is a measurement of experience, he takes the cake. But none the less, regardless of how experienced he is or is not, he has climbed A5, a title rather few can claim. Pete hasn't done jack shit on El Cap. Oh I clearly understood what you said. What you clearly do not understand is that pete hasn't done shit in terms of hard A5 anything on El Cap or anywhere else. He just wants people to think he has. Sure, pete has logged a ton of time on the wall. He has yet to really get on the truly hard scary routes that very few even think of doing. Wally Barker Spent close to 30 days living on a wall on Trango Tower doing a first ascent. REAL A5. I don't think that route has ever seen a repeat. Wally also did early or first solo ascents of all the hardest test pieces solo on El Cap. Pete has yet to even try those routes. Gerberding has more El Cap routes under his belt than anyone alive, including first ascents. Pete, regardless of what he claims, hasn't done shit on El Cap. Bridwell has spent more time off the ground on walls than most people spend at the deli or the lodge. Eric Kohl has put up some of the most disturbing real A5 routes in the valley. Pete has done nothing other than stand on their shoulders. My advice to you is to keep your mouth shut around the valley about Pete. You'll only be met with blank stares of disbelief. He has zero respect from anyone in the know.
I am not arguing with you at this point, rather I am curious why you seem to want him dead. He dident seem like the type of person to piss a lot of people off. Sure I guess he was slightly boastful at one point, but he dident exactly shake my hand and tell me he was the baddest mother fucker I am ever going to meet. Maybe something has changed, or he acted differently around me.
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jt512
Mar 19, 2012, 7:14 AM
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USnavy wrote: Sure I guess he was slightly boastful at one point, but he dident exactly shake my hand and tell me he was the baddest mother fucker I am ever going to meet. Maybe something has changed, or he acted differently around me.
You weren't the right age or gender.
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roguecrimson
Mar 20, 2012, 11:22 PM
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camhead wrote: USnavy wrote: After seeing all the constant shit talking and off topic trolling on here, I kind of came to the conclusion that you have to really piss DDT off to get banned. This is true, although anytime a user harasses another user, especially male to female, ESPECIALLY if the harassee is underage, I would like to think that DDT would wield the ban hammer. More importantly, all of the PTPP stuff went down years before DDT and the South African Dropzoners were in the picture. The owner/founder of the site at the time was trevor, and rrradam was the head admin.
great history lesson.
You can be a teacher and give out stars!
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camhead
Mar 21, 2012, 12:55 AM
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roguecrimson wrote: camhead wrote: USnavy wrote: After seeing all the constant shit talking and off topic trolling on here, I kind of came to the conclusion that you have to really piss DDT off to get banned. This is true, although anytime a user harasses another user, especially male to female, ESPECIALLY if the harassee is underage, I would like to think that DDT would wield the ban hammer. More importantly, all of the PTPP stuff went down years before DDT and the South African Dropzoners were in the picture. The owner/founder of the site at the time was trevor, and rrradam was the head admin. great history lesson. You can be a teacher and give out stars!
I am a teacher. And US Navy gets no stars!
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USnavy
Mar 21, 2012, 12:34 PM
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camhead wrote: roguecrimson wrote: camhead wrote: USnavy wrote: After seeing all the constant shit talking and off topic trolling on here, I kind of came to the conclusion that you have to really piss DDT off to get banned. This is true, although anytime a user harasses another user, especially male to female, ESPECIALLY if the harassee is underage, I would like to think that DDT would wield the ban hammer. More importantly, all of the PTPP stuff went down years before DDT and the South African Dropzoners were in the picture. The owner/founder of the site at the time was trevor, and rrradam was the head admin. great history lesson. You can be a teacher and give out stars! I am a teacher. And US Navy gets no stars!
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