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spencer11
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for those of you who have the gopro cameras, how do you mount it for climbing? what are the best mounting options for the best shots for what the climber sees, and what about a way to attach it to the rockl? for some cool shots of someone climbing up to the camera. attach it to a cam maybe? some sort of flexable mount? i just got my hero 3 camera for climbing and cant wait to use it
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edge
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spencer11 wrote: for those of you who have the gopro cameras, how do you mount it for climbing? what are the best mounting options for the best shots for what the climber sees, and what about a way to attach it to the rockl? for some cool shots of someone climbing up to the camera. attach it to a cam maybe? some sort of flexable mount? i just got my hero 3 camera for climbing and cant wait to use it
Based on the vast majority of GoPro vids I have seen, I would mount it to a first aid kit with a satellite phone included.
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jomagam
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Don't mount it to your helmet unless you're supplying Dramamine to your viewers. In seriousness, the only good videos I've seen were shot from anchors or from a helicopter.
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edge wrote: spencer11 wrote: for those of you who have the gopro cameras, how do you mount it for climbing? what are the best mounting options for the best shots for what the climber sees, and what about a way to attach it to the rockl? for some cool shots of someone climbing up to the camera. attach it to a cam maybe? some sort of flexable mount? i just got my hero 3 camera for climbing and cant wait to use it Based on the vast majority of GoPro vids I have seen, I would mount it to a first aid kit with a satellite phone included.
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jomagam wrote: Don't mount it to your helmet unless you're supplying Dramamine to your viewers. In seriousness, the only good videos I've seen were shot from anchors or from a helicopter.
+1
I have never seen a GOOD climbing video shot with a gopro.
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lena_chita wrote: jomagam wrote: Don't mount it to your helmet unless you're supplying Dramamine to your viewers. In seriousness, the only good videos I've seen were shot from anchors or from a helicopter. +1 I have never seen a GOOD climbing video shot with a gopro.
1. The lens is too wide angle for POV climbng shots - everything has that nasty barrel/fisheye distortion.
2. When climbing, we move our heads *a lot*, I mean, really, really, a lot. It results in sucky jerky-cam footage.
The OP may be really jazzed about his new toy, but for dog sake don't mount it to anything on your head.
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spencer11
May 2, 2013, 5:57 PM
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really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4
im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above
i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount?
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lena_chita
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spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount?
You think that is a good one? To me, it encapsulates everything that is bad about gopro videos. Sure, I've seen worse, but I wouldn't call it a GOOD climbing movie. But if that is the type of video that you want, then it is pretty clear that it was mounted on a helmet. You should do the same.
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amarius
May 2, 2013, 6:48 PM
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The only acceptable to use GoPro is hook it up to quadcopter. Then you can make a clip like this
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lena_chita wrote: spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount? You think that is a good one? To me, it encapsulates everything that is bad about gopro videos.
It didn't even have the usual near-death fall.
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JasonsDrivingForce
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I agree with Lena. I haven’t seen a Climbing GoPro video I liked yet. However, I wouldn’t mind seeing someone crush something really hard from the climbers perspective. You would need to fix the camera to the climbers torso for it to be watchable though.
I think they make a vest that has a pole that sticks out of the back of the climber. It basically gets an overhead shot. If the climber is a super static climber it might look ok.
Personally I would just use an Octocopter.
http://www.reallycooltoys.com/rctoys-x650v8.html
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edge
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spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount?
That was horrible; I had to fast forward through 95% of it. Generally speaking, these type of vids are meant for substandard climbers to post on YouTube so that they can link them on Facebook to impress non-climbers. Don't be that guy.
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spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount?
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redlude97 wrote: spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount? Holy fucking mother of all gumbies. Did that brah just clip a single locker to the chains and rappel? Even if he was just setting up a TR for his buddies why didn't he just lower?
He did? I never made it that far into the video. 
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macherry
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hate the go pro. the self portrait shot to impress others or to make friends jealous that they're not there. shitty quality and honestly, i don't want to look at the activity through the user's eye.
i've seen too many in the ski industry..........can't be bothered to to even clicky on the the climbing ones.
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macherry
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redlude97 wrote: spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount? Holy fucking mother of all gumbies. Did that brah just clip a single locker to the chains and rappel? Even if he was just setting up a TR for his buddies why didn't he just lower?
please do not use the word brah
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marc801
May 3, 2013, 5:34 PM
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spencer11 wrote: really you guys have never seen good climbing videos taken with a go pro? ive seen some pretty decent ones, such as as this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuL6fXgiD4 im not looking to do profesenial videos/movies, just something like the one i posted above i agree i move my head alot to when i climb, maybe a chest mount?
A chest mount doesn't fix the fisheye distortion, and since your chest is even closer to the rock than your head, the claustrophobic feeling will be even more intense. You should be striving to make videos that suck less, not more.
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wjca
May 3, 2013, 6:59 PM
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Sounds like that camera may be better suited for making POV home porn. Give it a go and report back.
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Tfinney110 wrote: macherry wrote: hate the go pro. the self portrait shot to impress others or to make friends jealous that they're not there. shitty quality and honestly, i don't want to look at the activity through the user's eye. i've seen too many in the ski industry..........can't be bothered to to even clicky on the the climbing ones. Hahaha this whole thread has made me laugh.. "GoPros suck cause i cant afford one but my friends can and now I'm jealous." It's really simple, if you don't want to watch it, don't click it dumbass. They are cameras made to be worn IN MOTION; obviously the quality isn't going to be the same as your fucking Hollywood films with cameras 20x the size of a Hero3. All you people getting "nauseous" from watching a video, are you serious? I have certainly laughed at more pitiful things but LOL. Your bashing the quality of a camera cause you cant hold your stomach down. I'm going to keep checking this in hopes of more laughs.
the statement is: "GoPros suck for Climbing videos. And I have yet to see a good GoPros Climbing vid. (Falling vids, otoh are quite well captured by the GoPro, if you are into that.
Might you be a bit touchy because your cool dude-brah vids have been deemed unworthy?
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Tfinney110 wrote: iknowfear wrote: Might you be a bit touchy because your cool dude-brah vids have been deemed unworthy? Yep, my "cool dude-brah" videos; cause i shot them and put them up right? They show exactly what you want them to show, your POV of climbing or whatever else your doing. Its not to show your recording skills and how still your can record while climbing or skiing. Your expecting way to much from a camera the size of a matchbox which is made to attach to the body to show the ACTION.
Yep. and that makes them pretty bad for capturing climbing. Because your POV when climbing is, simply: look down at feet. look up at handholds ahead, look down at feet, look up at hands, look around while shaking, look down at feet, look up at hands, repeat ad nauseam. (in this case, literally, for the viewers)
You want to see a good climbing video that captures what the movement looks like? Click on any one of these:
http://topfreeclimb.tv/best-of-2012/
You want to watch your own pornGoPro videos? Go right ahead. Post it for all your friends to see, too. It is nothing to me. But don't get offended when someone asks about mounting options and is told that they all suck (other than, possibly, the helicopter). They do, it's the truth. And if that video that was linked upthread is really yours, than you have quite a bit to worry about, other than getting offended at people not liking it.
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iknowfear
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lena_chita wrote: Tfinney110 wrote: iknowfear wrote: Might you be a bit touchy because your cool dude-brah vids have been deemed unworthy? Yep, my "cool dude-brah" videos; cause i shot them and put them up right? They show exactly what you want them to show, your POV of climbing or whatever else your doing. Its not to show your recording skills and how still your can record while climbing or skiing. Your expecting way to much from a camera the size of a matchbox which is made to attach to the body to show the ACTION. Yep. and that makes them pretty bad for capturing climbing. Because your POV when climbing is, simply: look down at feet. look up at handholds ahead, look down at feet, look up at hands, look around while shaking, look down at feet, look up at hands, repeat ad nauseam. (in this case, literally, for the viewers) You want to see a good climbing video that captures what the movement looks like? Click on any one of these: http://topfreeclimb.tv/best-of-2012/ You want to watch your own pornGoPro videos? Go right ahead. Post it for all your friends to see, too. It is nothing to me. But don't get offended when someone asks about mounting options and is told that they all suck (other than, possibly, the helicopter). They do, it's the truth. And if that video that was linked upthread is really yours, than you have quite a bit to worry about, other than getting offended at people not liking it.
thanks for getting the quote.
And Tfinney: deleting is weak. not amused by this thread anymore?
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iknowfear
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lena_chita wrote: Tfinney110 wrote: iknowfear wrote: Might you be a bit touchy because your cool dude-brah vids have been deemed unworthy? Yep, my "cool dude-brah" videos; cause i shot them and put them up right? They show exactly what you want them to show, your POV of climbing or whatever else your doing. Its not to show your recording skills and how still your can record while climbing or skiing. Your expecting way to much from a camera the size of a matchbox which is made to attach to the body to show the ACTION. Yep. and that makes them pretty bad for capturing climbing. Because your POV when climbing is, simply: look down at feet. look up at handholds ahead, look down at feet, look up at hands, look around while shaking, look down at feet, look up at hands, repeat ad nauseam. (in this case, literally, for the viewers) You want to see a good climbing video that captures what the movement looks like? Click on any one of these: http://topfreeclimb.tv/best-of-2012/ You want to watch your own pornGoPro videos? Go right ahead. Post it for all your friends to see, too. It is nothing to me. But don't get offended when someone asks about mounting options and is told that they all suck (other than, possibly, the helicopter). They do, it's the truth. And if that video that was linked upthread is really yours, than you have quite a bit to worry about, other than getting offended at people not liking it.
was he bannzed?
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iknowfear wrote: Might you be a bit touchy because your cool dude-brah vids have been deemed unworthy?
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I have a Gro Pro and it's a total waste of time. Helmet videos are terrible.
Quadcopter/octocopter is the best idea if you don't mind the noise but you need to get a good one or do a bit of work to avoid the "jello" effect of vibration on the rolling shutter of CMOS video cameras. The Parrot AR Drone 2.0 looks great but it will be better when it gets GPS later this year. It's standard videos however are terrible due to the jello waves. There's volumes on the net on how to improve the quality. I've no doubt that the technology will become cheaper and more practical in the near future.
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Syd wrote: I have a Gro Pro and it's a total waste of time. Helmet videos are terrible.
Helmet cams can work OK for some sports. Climbing isn't one of them.
Syd wrote: Quadcopter/octocopter is the best idea if you don't mind the noise but you need to get a good one or do a bit of work to avoid the "jello" effect of vibration on the rolling shutter of CMOS video cameras. The Parrot AR Drone 2.0 looks great but it will be better when it gets GPS later this year. It's standard videos however are terrible due to the jello waves. There's volumes on the net on how to improve the quality. I've no doubt that the technology will become cheaper and more practical in the near future.
Regarding quad/hex/octo-copters I think we'd all like to see:
* much longer battery life
* much greater radio-control range
* reasonably priced live video down-feed
Serious rigs take two people - a pilot and a cam operator. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.
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marc801 wrote: Syd wrote: I have a Gro Pro and it's a total waste of time. Helmet videos are terrible. Helmet cams can work OK for some sports. Climbing isn't one of them.
Yes, that's what I meant. No good for climbing but for many sports Go Pro is great.
In reply to: It's all about image stabilization - either in-camera, the mounting system, or post-processing. All have their pros and cons, but I agree about decreasing prices and technology improvements. Regarding quad/hex/octo-copters I think we'd all like to see: * much longer battery life * much greater radio-control range * reasonably priced live video down-feed Serious rigs take two people - a pilot and a cam operator. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.
I haven't seen any post processing technique to remove the jello effect, despite much searching. Normal imagine stabilization as in Virtual Dub, doesn't help.
Gimbal mounts help but anti vibration mounts and balancing of the props seems essential. The DJI Phantom is the next best buy but it needs a Gro Pro Bac Pack and the results out of the box are still poor.
I agree that it definitely needs an extra person to film. There's a little very cheap voice controlled one due out next year but I wouldn't hold your breath about video quality.
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We all know GoPro climbing videos aren't meant for climbers to enjoy, but for showing friend & family what you're up to. It's usually one of the only ways to show gramgram what it's like to be up on the wall without actually hauling her up yourself.
That being said, I'd use a helmet cam so they can see where you are on the wall, a chesty mount will only show what's directly in front of you at all times. Try not to move your head a lot though when it's helmet mounted. And remember, you're not filming it for other climbers to enjoy, if you were, you wouldn't be using a GoPro.
If you're trying to get good overhead footage of climbing on lead though, just climb an easy route near by, set up a fixed line, and have someone else jug up and film from above while you're on lead.
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I hope that this can be of assistance, its not mounting a GoPro but it's close being a dog mounting a leg.
It looks like the key to being effective here is to just stick it in there. Good luck!
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Using a GoPro is for hobby climbers to be able to show their friends and family what they do. Unless you're sponsored or have some seriously commited friends who are willing to strap themselves to the wall for most of the day and film you GoPros and other action cameras are the best option. It would also be quite hard to strap a DSLR camera to a helmet.
My buddy has a GoPro and we tried using the chest harness with it and that was awful, you get a really confusing shot of the wall about 1 inch away. Not the mention that it gets in the way there alot.
If you go with the helmet mount just make sure that you are wary of it and aren't "whipping your hair back and forth"
climbing is wicked and should be shared no matter what equipment you use.
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