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bumblie
Apr 30, 2003, 7:57 PM
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Regarding neutral answers the website says: "This makes it too easy for people to duck difficult issues. By forcing people to take a positive or negative stance, the propositions make people really evaluate their feelings. Often people find they wanted to select 'don't know' mainly because they'd never really thought about the idea. " Makes sense to me.
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thomasribiere
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Libertarian Left (Gandhi) LR-2,6, AL-3,74.
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styndall
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In reply to: Bwahhh haawwww!!! An honest -8.12 and -8.15!! Got you all beat! Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -9.38 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.92 sucka
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dixieclimber
Apr 30, 2003, 8:54 PM
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economic left/right 5.88 Authoritarian/libertatrian 1.74 yall are a bunch of commies :shock:
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shortfatoldguy
Apr 30, 2003, 9:05 PM
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Okay, styndall, that'll be quite enough of your radical-chic posturing. :lol:
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andy_lemon
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In reply to: yall are a bunch of commies :shock: I know dude!!! :cry: What'll I do? I'm willing to change...
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hangerlessbolt
Apr 30, 2003, 9:31 PM
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In reply to: economic left/right 5.88 Authoritarian/libertatrian 1.74 yall are a bunch of commies :shock: As opposed to a bunch of closed-minded rednecks.?.?.? ;) It's okay, I used to be one too until I learned to read and to form my opinions based on fact instead of tradition. j/k, but you started with the name calling. :D
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bigbouda
Apr 30, 2003, 10:00 PM
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Finally some hope that not everyone here is a CURT :lol: :lol: :lol: yours truly, Economic Left/Right: -6.62 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.05
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djmclimber
Apr 30, 2003, 10:20 PM
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Economic Left/Right: 5.25 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.62 not a suprise -
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hugepedro
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In reply to: Bwahhh haawwww!!! An honest -8.12 and -8.15!! Got you all beat! But, as hugepedro said, I'd have scored less down and left had there been a neutral option. And, go figure, I'm really excited about going off to read Adam Smith with my freshmen in an hour. I like him! How does that compute?? I knew you were trouble. No surprise regarding Adam Smith. Organization of Work gave birth to one of the greatest improvements in productivity of workers. And, I know you know this - productivity improvement is the only mechanism that improves a worker's standard of living. Organization of Information is the next massive productivity flux (it hasn't quite happened yet - I'm not talking about dot com crap). Scientific organization of knowledge, information and data, for specific purpose. And now I'm boring everybody else, so I'll just shut up.
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meataxe
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Economic Left/Right: -5.62 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.05 Kinda pinko -- about where I thought. I've always considered myself an unhealthy mix of libertarian and socialist. I usually side with issues favouring personal responsibility over state control, while on the otherhand I value a social welfare system. (I also believe that many social programs as a whole are cost-effective for a society in the long term.) However I had a lot of trouble with some of those questions. They deliberately polarize the issues. When there is a question is it A or B, I can't help but think, "that is really over-simplifying the issue". I think my ideal test would have a few more dimensions to it... and some fuzzy logic.
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emelia
Apr 30, 2003, 11:21 PM
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Economic Left/Right: -4.38 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.31 And what meataxe said.
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shortfatoldguy
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hugepedro: I want to make time to read more of The Wealth of Nations than the selections I assigned. (I've had my hands full just reading enough background material on it to be able to provide some context for a few discussion sessions--it's well outside my own niche in the division of labor.) But his arguments are so clearly presented, and he seems so clear-eyed and fair-minded. From the way his name gets tossed around and by whom, one might expect something rather doctrinaire. But even though he celebrates the beneficial effects of the division of labor, he worries deeply about the effects of specialized, routinized tasks on laborers. He wants mercantilist government off the backs of traders, but he acknowledges that only in a well-governed state can the free market extend its benefits to the working classes. There's something there for everybody. And what meataxe said.
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curt
Apr 30, 2003, 11:32 PM
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Economic Left/Right = +3.00 Authoritarian / Libertarian = -1.74 Curt Nice to see some of the socialist leaning results from those educated far beyond any native intellect they may posess.
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centmass
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Economic Left/Right: -1.62 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.18 If you are way Libertarian how can you favor one economic policy over another? If the government allows me to make money (and keep it) anyway I see fit then I am Right (charity), if the government takes all my money and puts me in jail then I am Left (welfare). [inflamatory] Right now we need welfare because the rich people of the world are all insane and only give 'charity' (read: guns, bombs, and money) to White Christians, throw all minorities into jail, and are on a jihad to rid the world of Islam. When the revolution comes and rich whities are exterminated then we won't need welfare because the spiritually enlightened will control all the resources and charity will provide for all. -centmass Awaits a Visit from Homeland Security [/inflamatory]
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Economic Left/Right 3.50 Authoritarian/Libertarian 2.31 And yes I too have read Adam Smith The Wealth Of Nations. A bit dry (classic understatement) but there`s lots of good stuff in there. I thought I was going along swimmingly around the middle of the road when bam those last two pages of questions hit me between the eyes and swung me wildly towards where I ended up. I actually thought that I was gunna be a pinko commy but nuh I`m a redneck. I had to think pretty hard about some of those questions earlier on like the one about if the artist is more important than the businessman. For me they are equally important but then I had to give it to the businessman because with bucks the artist wouldn`t be able to be supported. ...Phil...
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shortfatoldguy
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^^Dry? "Nobody has ever seen a dog with a bone enter into a contract for the free and fair exchange for another bone with another dog." That's good dry Scots humor. Ya gotta love it.
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jules
May 1, 2003, 1:11 AM
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http://www.jul3s.com/images/rc.jpg I found myself thinking "someone should graph this stuff" so I figured I would. I think I got everyone up to centmass. kinda neat to look at.
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jules
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oh yeah... and if someone knows how to get the names on there, lemme know and i'll send you the .xls file. i'm too lazy to put them in by hand.
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mojorisin
May 1, 2003, 1:33 AM
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Economic left/right -4.50 Authoritarian/Libertarian -3.69 Gandhi would be proud 8)
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dixieclimber
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In reply to: In reply to: economic left/right 5.88 Authoritarian/libertatrian 1.74 yall are a bunch of commies :shock: As opposed to a bunch of closed-minded rednecks.?.?.? ;) It's okay, I used to be one too until I learned to read and to form my opinions based on fact instead of tradition. j/k, but you started with the name calling. :D Sorry if i offended you I thought you all were open about your socialism. Conserveatism is not really a tradition in my family in fact my grandfather and father were both libertarians. I base my opinions on right and wrong acording to my faith other than that i base them on the constitution.
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hangerlessbolt
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I was just playing with ya...no worries...as I'm sure you were just having a little fun with calling those leftist pigs commies...;) It's all good! :D
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thrasher
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In reply to: I base my opinions on right and wrong acording to my faith other than that i base them on the constitution. Couldn't have said it better!
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bumblie
May 1, 2003, 1:09 PM
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Based on Juliana's graph, most of those who took the test are Anarchistic Commies. This is not meant to be an insult, just an observation...and possibly a slight troll.
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shortfatoldguy
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In reply to: Based on Juliana's graph, most of those who took the test are Anarchistic Commies. This is not meant to be an insult, just an observation... and possibly a slight troll. Apparently so. And just the other day, I was thinking that it's a good thing that I don't live down in Eugene, OR, because all the commie anarchists there would irritate me. But it turns out I am one, even without the black hoodie and fatigues and ratty hair. So it seems it's not their politics that annoy me, merely their bad taste in fashion and habit of shouting at people and breaking things. Perhaps they need to be 50% gay commie anarchists like me (cf. Anne's "gay-0-meter"), and then they'd bathe and be nicer to people.
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