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crackaddict
Jun 19, 2003, 2:19 AM
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It is offical now here in Arizona. Fire season is here. Currently there are 6 major fires burning in the state. Heres a map to show you where all major forest fires are burning in th US. Click on http://www.azfireinfo.com/ for all the latest info in AZ. So far BLM and some National Forest are implementing fire restrictions. If we don't get rain it won't be long till all the forest shut down again like last year. Here is current info on fires in the US. Pray for rain!
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 2:31 AM
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:x *shriek* DON'T BURN MY STATE DOWN AGAIN THIS YEAR!! But c.addict and I know of a couple of secret spots ;)
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traddad
Jun 19, 2003, 2:52 AM
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Make that eight fires at last count. The one on Mt. Lemon might have been arson.... Everyone get up and do a rain dance NOW. Gawd I hope they don't close the Forks.
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 3:35 AM
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In reply to: Make that eight fires at last count. The one on Mt. Lemon might have been arson.... *screeeeeeeeeeeam* NONONONO!!!!!!! What worthless sub-human piece of shit started it? I'll suffocate him by wrapping the armpit end of my capilene around his nose and knotting it behind his head... I'll give him a boiling gasoline enema... I'll feed him what I just scooped outta the cat box... I'll, I'll... This isn't just about climbing though. Andria's mom and I can't think of a more appropriate place to scatter her this summer... AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! :mad: :cry: *rain dance*
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raindog
Jun 19, 2003, 3:47 AM
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Geesh I gotta get in the loop. Did they close Mt. Lemmon cause of the fire? Is it out now? The air has been mighty smokey in Flagstaff the last couple of days. Peace, Jeff
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thedesertnomad
Jun 19, 2003, 3:48 AM
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In reply to: What worthless sub-human piece of s___ started it? I'll suffocate him by wrapping the armpit end of my capilene around his nose and knotting it behind his head... I'll give him a boiling gasoline enema... I'll feed him what I just scooped outta the cat box... I'll, I'll... *rain dance* Don't forget the power of the saguaro... we live in a place surrounded with perfect torture devices. (I have bushwhacking scars to prove it...lol) Just bounce em naked off of a cacti or 2 :twisted:
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 4:04 AM
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Saguaro are weak. Get em on the teddy bear cholla. (tongue-first, like my dog did) Ouch!
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curt
Jun 19, 2003, 4:09 AM
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In reply to: Geesh I gotta get in the loop. Did they close Mt. Lemmon cause of the fire? Is it out now? I bouldered on the Rose Canyon boulders on Mt. Lemmon 3 days ago (on Sunday) and there were no restrictions or closures at that time--as far as I know. Curt
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crackaddict
Jun 19, 2003, 4:12 AM
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In reply to: :x *shriek* DON'T BURN MY STATE DOWN AGAIN THIS YEAR!! But c.addict and I know of a couple of secret spots ;) Yes we do! And now I know of a few more. :wink:
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 4:17 AM
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*ears perk* secret crags! yah!! Don't make me get it out of you via pillow-fight torture :P
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kevlar
Jun 19, 2003, 4:42 AM
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not wanna upset climbsomething
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raindog
Jun 19, 2003, 4:45 AM
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thanx :)
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crackaddict
Jun 19, 2003, 4:48 AM
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No problem raindog.
In reply to: *ears perk* secret crags! yah!! Don't make me get it out of you via pillow-fight torture :P "Are you threatening me?" :shock:
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climbsomething
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In reply to: not wanna upset climbsomething bwah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-AH!!!1
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raindog
Jun 19, 2003, 5:17 AM
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In reply to: Saguaro are weak. Get em on the teddy bear cholla. (tongue-first, like my dog did) Ouch! OW
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 5:20 AM
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In reply to: "Are you threatening me?" :shock: I am the Great Climbholio!
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thedesertnomad
Jun 19, 2003, 5:41 AM
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Thanks for the quick fire updates Chris. by the way, I have been playing on Little England wall for some nice multi-pitch stuff... lots of fun. Easy way to beat the heat in the afternoon. You should check it out
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thedesertnomad
Jun 19, 2003, 5:46 AM
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In reply to: Saguaro are weak. Get em on the teddy bear cholla. (tongue-first, like my dog did) Ouch! My dog got into a cholla face first and between his thashing and yelping, I got him all taken care of, but by then I was into it something fierce. Since then I am sure to carry pliers or something better then my hands to pull them (tho he has yet to go near them again...)
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raindog
Jun 19, 2003, 6:55 AM
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If they catch the arsonist they should wrap him in aluminum foil and set him in a Human-Sized Aluminum Foil Reflector Oven (tm) out in the middle of a Tucson parking lot all day and poke him periodically with a fork to see if he is soft in the middle. In the background the music plays....... FIIIII - RE (UH UH) FIIIII - RE (WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH)
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Jun 19, 2003, 9:38 AM
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I may be wrong but I would almost bet that they will not close the forest up here down this year. We have had a pretty good spring and things are MUCH better than they were last year. I have talked to a few Forest Service types and they all seem to agree that the Coconino will not close so long as the monsoons start on time. So all of you PHX and Tucson types come on up here before you spontaneously combust. Rick
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traddad
Jun 19, 2003, 1:39 PM
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I heard last night via broadcast news (bad source of info) that the Lemon road was closed. I have a call into a colleague in the Tucson USFS office about any Mt. Lemon closure. Will keep you addicts apprised....
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traddad
Jun 19, 2003, 2:03 PM
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It's official....Mt. Lemon is closed. I talked to my contact in the FS and he predicted it would be at least a week. Once again, I have a July 4th vacation scheduled there. Hope we get rain before then. The current thoery is that it was "human caused" which, for me, translates to arson. Damn people, when you are in your umpteenth year of drought and you have a bark beetle infestation to boot, keep your sparkies to yourself!
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 7:47 PM
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In reply to: It's official....Mt. Lemon is closed. I talked to my contact in the FS and he predicted it would be at least a week. Once again, I have a July 4th vacation scheduled there. Hope we get rain before then. The current thoery is that it was "human caused" which, for me, translates to arson. Damn people, when you are in your umpteenth year of drought and you have a bark beetle infestation to boot, keep your sparkies to yourself! :x :x fejhfefshsDhjDHBASHjfjhghgJVJKFDJF!!!!!!!111 :x :x
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mingthemerciless
Jun 19, 2003, 8:01 PM
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Yes, Catalina Highway is indeed closed (at the base) and predicted winds for Friday are to come from the southwest. Bye Summerhaven, we'll miss you. They had such good chili and pies too. :cry:
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mingthemerciless
Jun 19, 2003, 8:03 PM
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Oh yea, the fire is 0% contained. And for the good news...
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Jun 19, 2003, 8:05 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: It's official....Mt. Lemon is closed. :x :x fejhfefshsDhjDHBASHjfjhghgJVJKFDJF!!!!!!!111 :x :x California, here you come. -Jay
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 8:17 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: It's official....Mt. Lemon is closed. :x :x fejhfefshsDhjDHBASHjfjhghgJVJKFDJF!!!!!!!111 :x :x California, here you come. -Jay :roll: Right back where I started from...
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Jun 19, 2003, 8:24 PM
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well...i wish the NE would quick getting all the rain. Someone's doing the dance properly...just in the wrong spot!!!
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Jun 19, 2003, 8:27 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: It's official....Mt. Lemon is closed. :x :x fejhfefshsDhjDHBASHjfjhghgJVJKFDJF!!!!!!!111 :x :x California, here you come. -Jay :roll: Right back where I started from... If you two start kissing online, I'm going to be sick! Get a room you two! HAHAHA!!!1
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climbsomething
Jun 19, 2003, 8:32 PM
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This is a bad shot taken from my front yard (yes, I live in a trash-lined alley. love Tucson!) with my $20 digital. What you see to the right of the tree is not a fluffy, rain-bearing cumulous cloud :( Lemmon is on fire
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Jun 19, 2003, 8:56 PM
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I see the Catalina fire from my balcony - they say it looks worse from down here because of so many "fingers" but it seems bad from anyplace if you ask me. Highway is closed at the base...time to climb Cochese.
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mingthemerciless
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Well, Cochise is nice and all but it is probably pretty blasted hot right now. Of course, it is less hot than the fire is but not by much. I guess Flagstaff is definitely going to get an influx from Tucson after all. Look out guys here we come. I'll make sure to tell everyone to be as irresponsible with fires as they apparently are on Mt. Lemmon so we can ruin it for you too. P.S. - Don't send any negative commentary back my way. The last few lines are SARCASM. Just being cautious.
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Jun 19, 2003, 11:49 PM
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The fire on Lemmon is totally out of control. Summerhaven is burning. Damn. Whoever started this needs to do time in the same cell as BillyBob BeckySue the 300lb toothless hilljack biker.
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crackaddict
Jun 20, 2003, 12:05 AM
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Wow Lemon looks like a volcano!
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SECRET CRAGS?!?! Please take me with you. I'll even buy after climb drinks. The monotony of a desk job and gym climbing are starting to get to me.
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I just heard on TV that the fire did indeed run through Summerhaven....hopefully it will miss the climbing areas at least. Rick
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crackaddict
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I have added a current conditions of forest fire in the US link to the first post. The fire on Lemmon does not look good! Summerhaven has been torched. Not sure what has happended to the Summit crags. Maybe some of our Tucson local can give us info to the areas hit by the fire. Also here are updates on restrictions in AZ Coconino and Kaibab Flagstaff, Ariz. – The Kaibab and Coconino National Forests will have campfire and smoking restrictions beginning Thursday, June 26 at 8 am. The North Kaibab Ranger District located north of the Grand Canyon will not go into restrictions because they have received more moisture and have a lower fire danger than other forested areas in northern Arizona. The Kaibab and Coconino National Forests remain open for recreation. The restrictions mean that campfires will be prohibited except in developed recreation sites. A developed recreation site has established campfire rings or grills and typically has picnic tables. Smoking will only be allowed in an enclosed vehicle or building or developed recreation site. Prescott PRESCOTT Ariz—Forest officials will increase fire restrictions on the Prescott National Forest on Friday, June 6 at 8 a.m. “While some of the indices we monitor are in line with our current restrictions others are elevated to a point where additional actions are warranted,” said Fire Management Officer Tony Sciacca. Campfires, charcoal grills and stove fires are prohibited forest-wide except in two areas on the Verde Ranger District. Pressurized liquid or gas stoves, lanterns and heaters meeting safety specifications are allowed. The two areas exempt from fire restrictions are the portion of the Verde district East of Interstate 17, and Northeast of State Highway 260. Smoking is allowed only within an enclosed vehicle or building. In addition to the restrictions, a closure will be implemented in the southern portion of the Bradshaw Ranger District. The boundary for the closed area is described as; from the Forest boundary south and west along Forest Road 259 to Poland Creek, then south along the Castle Creek Wilderness boundary to Whiskey Springs, then south along Forest Road 100 to trail 233, then southwest along the trail to the Forest boundary, then east and north along the Forest boundary to Forest Road 259. This area is generally known as the Castle Creek Wilderness and Horsethief Basin area. “The southern Bradshaws have experienced an extremely high rate of ponderosa pine mortality as a result of the Ips bark beetle. In some areas the mortality rate exceeds 95%. I think this condition requires us to take an extra step of protection given the response time for both air and ground attack,” said Bradshaw District Ranger Ernie Del Rio. The public is also reminded that fireworks are always prohibited on all national forest lands. Violation of any fire restriction orders is punishable by a maximum $5,000.00 fine or 6 months imprisonment or both. Please help keep our forests free from fires for the duration of this fire season. Tonto Phoenix– On Tonto National Forest, campfire and smoking restrictions which were begun under the Mogollon Rim near Payson and in the Pinal Mountains near Globe at 8:00 am, Tuesday, May 20, will now be extended to cover a larger area along the rim at 8 am on Friday, June 20. Campfire and smoking restrictions will be in effect from south of the Mogollon Rim, including such communities as Rye, Payson, Gisela, Star Valley, east to Forest Road 12. North and south of Hwy. 260 east of Payson to the top of the Mogollon rim and both sides of Hwy. 87 north of Rye to the top of the rim will all be in fire restriction beginning Friday, June 20. Area closures will remain in effect around the communities of Pine and Strawberry, north of the Tonto Natural Bridge State Park (which is not affected by this closure) to the Mogollon Rim. The northwest boundary of the closure area is the Irving Power Plant. The Pinal Mountains south of Globe will also be closed. “The two areas remain closed due to lower than average winter precipitation, continuing drought and the thousands of acres of dead trees due to the pine bark beetle infestation. For the same reasons, we are extending campfire and smoking restrictions to cover a larger area of the northern part of the forest. These conditions dramatically increase the potential for wildfires to spread. We continue to caution our visitors to help prevent human-caused wildfires by following fire safety standards,” stated Karl Siderits, Tonto National Forest Supervisor. “We continue to ask the public to please help keep our forests free from fires for the duration of this fire season. “ Coronado Lemmon Hyway is Closed for now. The year-round free campfire permit system on the Santa Catalina Ranger District, including Mt. Lemmon and Redington Pass, will be suspended during fire restrictions. Restrictions include the following: · Open Campfire Restrictions: Campfires, charcoal grills and stove fires are prohibited on national forest lands, except in Forest Service developed campgrounds and picnic grounds where grills are provided. Pressurized liquid or gas stoves, lanterns and heaters meeting safety specifications are allowed. · Smoking Restrictions: Smoking is allowed within an enclosed vehicle or building; a developed recreation site; or while stopped in an area at least three feet in diameter and free of all flammable material. · Fireworks: Fireworks are prohibited on all national forest lands year-round.
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I worked in Florence today on the new county courthouse. I had a really good view of the fire on Lemmon. From what I saw, it does not look good. I saw 3 huge plumes of smoke one on top, one in the middle and, one at the base of the mountain. Only 5% contained. Lets all pray for rain and all the weary firefighters risking their lives balttleing these fires. Chris..
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Jun 24, 2003, 12:42 PM
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Latest word on Aspen fire... Size of the fire jumped from 12,000 to 20,000 acres. 15% containment. Possibly 2 weeks before they get this one snuffed. This is sooooooo not good.
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As of 1:00 pm today the Aspen fire is 5 miles away from the town of Oracle. The fire is heading north down the mountain and the winds a pushing it hard. From what it looked like today it has went from pines to desert. Oracle has a population of 3000 and is on alert for evacuation. Hope this is not bad news for the folks in Oracle.
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thedesertnomad
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Aspen Fire Well... apparently the Bioshphere is NOT engangered of burning anymore and they have a 15% containment on the blaze. It is now some 25,000 acres toasted... lets hope they can squelch this sucker quickly.
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