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climbingjunky
Aug 18, 2003, 5:35 PM
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Onsighting is fun. A true test of problem solving. 8)
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craggy
Aug 18, 2003, 6:21 PM
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What is the big deal with terminology these days? Why is it such a big freakin deal that a word has so much meaning and so many rules?
Onsight = to complete a climb with no prior BETA, without falling and on your first attempt.
What else needs to be discussed? Whether you had to take a crap during the ascent? Whether you didn't cut your toenails? You were wearing the wrong colour clothes? You accidently looked up at the next hold so God forbid it isn't an onsight?
relax people, and enjoy climbing and stop fussing over such triviality.
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adeptus
Aug 18, 2003, 6:43 PM
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In reply to: What is the big deal with terminology these days?....
I don't think you got the point. The point is that not knowing the grade of a climb will change the way you approach the problems at hand, instead of just climbing it casually because you know you can do it. I think it makes a big difference mentally.
(Maybe I should add that the idea applies more to trad, where the protection is a significant factor)
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craggy
Aug 18, 2003, 7:21 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: What is the big deal with terminology these days?.... I don't think you got the point. The point is that not knowing the grade of a climb will change the way you approach the problems at hand, instead of just climbing it casually because you know you can do it. I think it makes a big difference mentally. (Maybe I should add that the idea applies more to trad, where the protection is a significant factor)
What does the "definition of onsight" have anything to do with whether you know the grade of a route? Sure it can influence the outcome of your success of whether you will complete without falling... but who simply walks up to ANYTHING harder then a 12 and says I think I'll onsight this???
You are talking about the success of an onsight... I thought the thread was about the definition of an onsight...
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ikefromla
Aug 18, 2003, 7:37 PM
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In reply to: Do they still have redpoint comps in Europe? I remember reading about some a while back but am not sure if they still have them. Anyway, good luck with the comps ike.
We still have redpoint comps here, but not for championship level (regionals, divisionals, nationals).
I cannot really say as far as Europe is concerned. I'm sure they do on some level, but I'm sure that most major events are onsight format.
and Thanks, let's see how i do this season.
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brianinslc
Aug 18, 2003, 7:51 PM
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Redpoint...
In reply to: In reply to: Historical note: Comes from France--when someone was working on a new route, they'd draw a red circle on it, like we tie a bit of web to the first bolt, to show it was a work in progress. When they finished and sent it, they'd fill in the circle, a red point, and open the climb No, the term comes from Germany (the Franken), and more precisely, from Kurt Albert (FA of routes such as Magnet, in the Frankenjura; to Eternal Flame, in The Nameless Tower; Riders on the Storm in Paine Towers; Royal Flush in the Fitz Roy; etc....)
Nope. Is a popular appliance maker. Rotpunkt.
http://www.rotpunkt-online.de/
Har har...(where Kurt got the idear, presumably)...
Geez, now they'll be movin' this thread to the trivia forum...
Brian in SLC
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