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Chingando!


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Aye chingada...!


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The one I just got off of!!!!


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Fantasia!


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The Eliminator

Difficulty: 5.10c
Protection: TR from bolt or number one camalots and small cams
Description: Great hand jams and layback moves. Short but great problem


kicks my ass every time .. i'm so in love.


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Pony Express. The OW part isn't too long or too hard, but it keeps the crowding down on the 2nd pitch.


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Isn't 'favorite offwidth' an oxymoron?


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Low Exposure at the Gunks was fun.


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Crescent Moon, NRG


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The Crucible, Mt. Woodson


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Your mom!

Just kidding...in reality, the second to last pitch of Pervertical Sanctuary on Long's Peak. Incredible exposure & position, nice variety of moves (hands and fists to a long section of 4-5 inches which involve stemming, liebacking, and arm/knee jams) while still retaining that grunting quality. Although some might claim that it's not a "real" offwidth. Which may be why it's my favorite.

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The Eliminator
... Great hand jams and ...

Um... is it just me? offwidth? hand jams?

???

GO


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Um... is it just me? offwidth? hand jams?
Well she also said layback moves. Maybe the OW part goes with a laybeack. I know some people layback the one I mentioned too.


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Low Exposure at the Gunks was fun.

Whoa!!!!! Brain cramp!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Low Exposure was fun, but the most juicy off width that I have ever had the pleasue of tangoing with is definately Generator Crack in the Valley. Truly Yummy; size 12 feet rule for off width.


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Granite: Twilight Zone

Sandstone: Cactus Flower, Indian Creek. Not really offwidth, but pretty
darn wide from base to canyon rim.


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Generator crack for sure, the Mace in sedona was also pretty memorable.


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the one that i dont lead or Fear of Flying at Cedars Bluff in So ill


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Isn't 'favorite offwidth' an oxymoron?

I thought so.


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cream -- yosemite

runners up:

bad ass mama -- yosemite
mother superior -- woodson
the brief but brilliant ow section of kaukulator -- yosemite

i am sad and embarrased to admit i've never done the twilight zone. my bad.


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Fear of flying at Cedar in Southern Il is cool.


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I love Crescent Crack in Little Cottonwood Canyon, Utah. Old School 5.7 ..... catches alot of 5.9 leaders off guard....(and sends 5.7 leaders whimpering home).

Also, the Trough pitch on the Thumb, another 5.7......

Kor-Ingalls route, Castleton Tower..... 5.9+, not too bad if you lay it back and then stem on some crystals....but you still have an unprotected 5.8 chimney above.....


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yo', it's da one I just got off widf


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Fantasia at Vedauwoo was by far the coolest one I've ever had the pleasure of. Or, as it were, had it's pleasure with me. I love the rating - 5.10, then downrated to 5.9 when the locals learned how to do OW technique. Classic. I can't figure out how the heck to protect it on lead... and pass the pro. But then again, it'd be awfully difficult to fall out of.


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fantasia is cool. i backed off the lead when i couldn't get gear in that pod about 12 feet up.

low exposure at the gunks is cool. lots of punishment per foot, and you always get a crowd of hecklers.

honeymoon chimney on the priest is really something. if kor-ingalls was hard for you, don't even think about it.


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Hmmm, hafta be a toss up between Nemesis or Cock Crack at Frog Buttress,South East Queensland Oz.


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Crack of Fear: Although I have never finished the third pitch, has to be the best OW ever. Large gear, good rock, and excelent exposure. I tought someone would have mentioned it by now.


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The Creation of the World. A fine Ken Nichols route up the overhanging face of Moss cliff, in the Adirondaks.

This 4 pitch route is a continuos and sustained offwidth that runs up the entire left side of this impressive wall, just right of the arete. Each pitch weighs in @ 5.10+, but be prepared for a typical Nichols effort at sandbagging.

Exposed, commiting from the start, and relentless. A fine feather in the cap of any true afficiando.

Personally, when I see the letters: O.W. on a topo, I presume it to mean: other way


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Doctor please tell me more. I'll be in that part of the country this summer and may need to look that up.


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The one that pops immediately into my mind is Honeymoon Chimney in Castle Valley. Others that were fun though are:
King Cat at Indian Creek, the ear pitch of Primrose Dihedrals, Texas flake on the Nose, lower pitches of Epinephrine in redrocks. There are many more, but I cannot remember them all right now.
Ronnie


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The Eliminator

Difficulty: 5.10c
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Description: Great hand jams and layback moves. Short but great problem
Doesn't much sound like an offwidth.

Anyways, someone much wiser than I once told me what OW truly stands for...other way, as in there's gotta be another way up.


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Hobbit Hole Offwidth out behind HVCG
OK, so it's only 15 feet tall but it's still sweet as all hell!!!!!!!!!!


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edge, i did a double-take also when you wrote low exposure. greasy, scary, awful roof. still fun to try though.
atg, you get hecklers, but you also get encouragers. better than hudson's, imho.

okinawa, moss cliff is in the whiteface region of the adirondacks. your best best would be to go after july, because of the peregrine closures.


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Miami - in Sedona, 3 pitches off the deck, feet above your head, flared and sandy; does it get any better? Another cool one is at Rumbling Bald in NC, called whipping Post, hand/fist stacks and levitation, way cool!


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disco death march


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Fantasia at Vedauwoo was by far the coolest one I've ever had the pleasure of.
Yeah, Fantasia is so perfect it's cute! Seems as nice as short offwidth can be; part of the charm is its position, up there on the hill.

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Crack of Fear: Although I have never finished the third pitch, has to be the best OW ever.
Another great choice, a bit "bigger" than Fantasia. After the thrills, above the exposure, the real bizness comes in that long 3rd pitch run.

And I'll nominate two more, easier than Fantasia or Fear but in different ways more exciting:

Half Moon Crack on Vertigo at Cannon. Has a scary reputation, which makes it all the more fun when you find out that it's really a hike.

Hollow Flake Crack on the Salathe Wall. Can anyone who's led it ever forget that pitch?


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What ever offwidth I'm belaying my partner on....

Surprised noone has said: crux pitch Keeler Needle - 5.10+ offwidth at altitude!

Murf


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1. The Pipeline at Squamish - Sick 10C Offwidth/Squeeze Chimney.
2. Various 5.10 Offwidths at Skaha - There are a lot of them.
3. Blue Autumn at Vantage.
4. Mithral Dihedral on Mount Russell, High Sierra.
5. East Face of Lexington Tower at Washington Pass.


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"Favorite Offwidth ???"

To me that is an oxymoron, as I hate all offwidths, and I have had to endure plenty... Always feel like I got in a fight after one.


I think I like Mike's tech tip for climbing offwidths...
(Praraphrasing)
"1. Do 3,000 situps
2. Ascend 1 foot
3. Rest
4. Repeat as necessarey to get to the top"


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:D


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The one I can bypass by face climbing :)

Rick


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Diet Pepsi(Sam's Throne, AR)
Owl Roof(Yosemite)
Trial By Fire(Yosemite)
Cream(Yosemite)
Bad Ass Momma(Yosemite)


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Right Long's Crack, Woodson - very very very nice ..... how many of you have had the pleasure of flipping your body upside down from a leavitation hand stack so you could jam a foot above your head, then inch by inch shuffling your foot up the crack, while holding yourself in this up side down mode with more hand stacks, till you can finally grab your leg and climb up yourself and continue on up to the top.

I've seen this crack shut down some big names. Is it really 5.11 withouth the cheat stone?


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disco death march

I've done this one. Great call...


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i liked Baby at the gunks, though most people lay it back


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Also at Woodson: the Ogre, has a few moves of fun leavitation on steep rock.
Big Grunt, some horizontal chicken winging to squeeze chimney. good fun.
Sickle Crack, good for learning some OW skills.
I can't wait to try Mother Superior and Right Long's though.


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The big baby for sure!

rigth torpedo tube is good, a lot of stuff in Vedaveu (spell?)

Crack of Fear is more of a squeeze chiimney

The Leavitator on Scorched Earth...5.11 OW protected with tubes, 13 pitches up El Cap


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Vedauwoo. Fat Crack Country. Somebody needs to try New Maps of Hell and tell me trying it is a bad idea. Its unrepeated, put up in 1988. Or Trip Master Monkey, but its only briefly offwidth. Loads of stuff out at Blair and the Citadel. And the Roof Ranch. The wide half of Nat's Roof, probably V5 ish, but I'm not sure its been done yet. 30 feet long, 11 inches wide, roof chimney. Are we crying yet? But it really is the beautiful woman that has captured my imagination (its not the climb that the dude is on). Now if only I could get to the hard part...


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Half Moon Crack on Vertigo at Cannon. Has a scary reputation, which makes it all the more fun when you find out that it's really a hike.

All depends on your size. Bigger folk find it an off-width (or layback), smaller bodies get inside and chimney. Either way, the runout is still serious.


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It's called 'Sport Climb this you Nowra Bastards' at Nowra in New South Wales, Australia.


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Let's not overlook "Paisano Overhang" at Suicide Rock for that upside-down bat hanging and perfect handstacks.

"Throbbing Gristle" at Loveland in Joshua Tree is sure to leave you puking into space.


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Whats the opinion for the greatest OW in Yosemite.


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ya mean i have to have a favorite...yuch i stay away from them


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9th pitch of Magic Mushroom.

Honorable mentions:
East Face Dihedrals on Regge Pole, Little Slide Canyon
Slack Left, Yosemite
Ipecac, Joshua Tree
Horror Frake, Salathe' Wall
Vertical Turtle, City of Rocks
First pitch of Steck-Salathe', for sandbag effect

Brutus


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Jaws in Yosemite,Emotional Rescue in Jt.But have these people really done all these OWS.Got lots of quality O.W.s in Spain


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But have these people really done all these OWS.

Wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't think of mentioning one I haven't done. (Which explains why most of my meager list consists of unknown climbs :) )


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Fear of Flying (5.10) at Enchanted Rock, TX, is the good kind of offwidth: layback-able. The crack itself is up to six inches wide.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=10804

AS for distant goals... The Big Baby at Indian Creek is the right of passage for OW.


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Oooh...this one is obscure: Plow Position, 5.9, on Instant Karma Cliff, at Independence Pass, Colorado. The crag is at 12,300 feet (you walk there from the pass itself), and the crack is about 18" wide the whole way. I barely did it on toprope. I thought I might puke and die, not necessarily in that order.

It felt about 1000 times harder than any 5.11 offwidth I've ever been on, which only confirms the old saying, "Beware the 5.9 offwidth." As a lead this route is likely 5.15.


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I hate offwidth.
I only do them because I hate myself even more :twisted:


:roll:


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Fear of Flying E rock, excelent routes


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Pony Express. The OW part isn't too long or too hard, but it keeps the crowding down on the 2nd pitch.
I should probably retract this. It was my favorite OW, because the first time I climbed it there were maybe 2 moves of OW, then done. I've had read TRs where some people would lieback the OW. When I repeated it recently there weren't any OW moves to make at all. Where the OW was, there were a couple of holds on the outside, plus stemming opportunities. I was less observant the first time. Or went inside too soon, and couldn't see the other choices. It was fun both ways, but this way was less strenuous, and didn't require an unpleasant knee-jam


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how many of you have had the pleasure of flipping your body upside down from a leavitation hand stack so you could jam a foot above your head, then inch by inch shuffling your foot up the crack, while holding yourself in this up side down mode with more hand stacks, till you can finally grab your leg and climb up yourself and continue on up to the top.

That sounds fun! Maybe one day....


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I hate offwidth.
I only do them because I hate myself even more

:D

That's my position with most overhanging climbs.


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ok, maybe I'm strange :wink: but I really enjoy getting a good struggle in after a day of less physical climbing. the favorite ow must be "generator crack" in yosemite, nice tr problem. my worst was the harding slot, I got totally :cry: claustrophobic. I have my eye on a particularly inviting ow in sedona, might try a fa soon!


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Gregs Problem At Woodson is great. Too big for stacks. So u gotta armbar. probably 11.d.


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Check out Blind Faith on the Rostrum.After the 11.c thin crux,its I think 3 pitchs of O.W. Nobody does this route.Its more resonable than it appears in the guide.


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Blind Faith, sound like a difficult approach (11c) but, hey I am game. No lines right


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The one I'll never even try!


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three way tie, with an honorable mention:

The Big Easy .11r/x (Cave Creek, Ar.): 60 degrees overhung, but thankfully in a dihedral for the occasional rest. Crux is 30 feet up with no pro. Bring a crashpad or 7...or even better; a "gold member"; one of those new fancy 18" big bros.

2nd Pitch of Abracadaver Pitch: .10d Route:11a (Cochise Stronghold, Az.):
Also in a dihedral, but much slicker(granite), preceded by 10+stemming/face; followed by 11a fingers...a full workout.

6th pitch of Mt. Conness' West Face Pitch: .9 Route:10c (Tuolomne, Ca.): Not TOO bad, but is protected by heinous 40 year old Harding home-made bolts (think plastic fork and ducktape), runout, and lies above 12,000 ' asl.

4th Pitch of Kazeemo .10c (Mt. Warren, Co.):
not the crux of the pitch, but again, at 12,000' + and 100' of hands and fingers after 30 feet of wide-ness to the belay. Beautiful views of alpine lakes. FA.


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Speak not the word lest you summon it to us. Even the word "offwidth" drips with malice. Those letters combined are like an invitation for Satan to attend your wedding. (Insert mother-in-law joke here.)


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I guess that OW will never have a line. While they are a weakness for me, I do enjoy them. Keeps me humble.


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table rock, linville gorge, north carolina

5.8 Crackerjack. second pitch is a body wide off width, bring big bros and yates.


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What about The Vertigo "half moon crack" pitch at Cannon Cliff NH USA, a 5.9 R offwidth... all the offwidth crack is run out for 50ft from the belay and finish with a hard crux slipperry face move to the next belay ;-0)

Enjoy your climbs everybody


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Crack A Jack --- in the Ghost ..... Canadian rockies


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Vedauwoo definitely has a lot of 'beginner' offwidths to practice on. Mother #1 and Lower/Upper Slots (5.7/8-ish) are great lines to tune into suffering. Middle Parallel Space and Fantasia (5.9's) are also very cool (I've only TR'd those and felt like puking afterwards).


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Muscle Shoals, 5.8+ RRG
When Doves Cry, 5.12+ 40 foot OW Roof boulder problem, RRG

So many cool OW routes and problems in Vedauwoo, great place to train for crack climbing for sure.

Wes


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Isn't 'favorite offwidth' an oxymoron?

My thoughts exactly. :P


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What ever offwidth I'm belaying my partner on....

Surprised noone has said: crux pitch Keeler Needle - 5.10+ offwidth at altitude!

Murf

I still shudder thinking about it. The altitude and loose rock just add to the charm of that one.


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Yes! The Generator Crack in Yosemite.

Gorgeous


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I'll throw my hat in for the Half Moon crack on Vertigo, Cannon Cliff, NH. Glad it got brought up already, too.


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Great thread, too bad I'm a year late.
They're ALL good. The question is, is there a bad offwidth?
Murf- for my money the best OW pitch at altitude, in the sierras, is the one on Conness, pure o-dub technique with classic dicey fixed pro; the one on Keeler is fun, but 10b (easier) and with handjams in the back, it's not an offwidth.
Studs- Blind faith is so cool, I don't know why more people don't do it. Especially with that, better that Butterballs, first pitch to lure them in.
INMHO Vedauwoo has the best progression of easy to hard ow's and is, thus, probably the best place to learn, hone, and enjoy the craft.

-"Offwidth climbers make the most technical moves of all.." - Ace Kvale


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Only 1 vote for the Hollow Flake on Salathe?

And none mentioned the Priest? That is a very unique pitch travelling all the way through the spire.....


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Vedauwoo definitely has a lot of 'beginner' offwidths to practice on. Mother #1 and Lower/Upper Slots (5.7/8-ish) are great lines to tune into suffering. Middle Parallel Space and Fantasia (5.9's) are also very cool (I've only TR'd those and felt like puking afterwards).

Funny, the only ow I wanted to puke after was the first time I got on Handjacker. If I'd liebacked and face climbed like everybody else does, it wouldn't have been so bad.

I changed my mind, incidentally, Lucille is no longer my favorite offwidth. The damn fingercrack to get to the offwidth spits me off way too much. I blame the roof on Best of the Blues for killing my hand strength before I get there.

The crux of Nexus is pretty fun, if brief and far too easy. Likewise, the 5.8 alternate finish for the Bastille Crack is not to be missed. Much more fun than the squeeze finish. Makes the entire climb more continuous. Should be longer and harder, but I can't ask for that much from Eldo. The second pitch of Stolen Chimney in the Fishers is filthy and almost too wide to be true offwidth, but its not hard and the moves are fun. Mainstreet at Vedauwoo is classic. Long, sustained, and just hard enough to keep away the maddening crowds. Fantasia is harder, but since it has a lower grade, everyone not in the know goes to it instead of Mainstreet.


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Road Warrior on Mount Evans - Solid 5.10+ at over 13,000 feet.

The Maelstrom on Poe Buttress, South Platte - Squeeze chimney to arm bar crux.

Pitch 3 of The Obelisk on the Diamond - Take your #4.5 camalots!


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The one I just got off of!!!!

funny as shit...Well I haven't done too many but pitch 4 of the Braille Book in Yosemite was really cool. And very strenuous for an Arizona trained climber.


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mainstreet @ vedauwoo is real nice.


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Lowe Rt., Grand Teton/Enclosure.
Wear boots, you'll need them for the ice pitches anyway. Don't dally, bring your biggest pro. Or, bring George....
Either way, you won't be waiting in line.


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[violet]FANTASIA!!! :D [/violet]


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bump.


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The one that changes into a nice hand splitter 3 feet above the dirt beneath my belayers feet.


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bump.

I got on Jay's Solo out at the Short Wall last fall with edl. That thing is an absolute beast. If you do not have your technique absolutely dialed, you will get your ass handed to you by a 30 foot 5.10 offwidth. Since its so fuckin' sustained, it got respect from me.

Another one is Orbital Ridge at Poland Hill. 10b #6 friend leavittation until it joins up with Skull. Incredibly pretty. There's a sweet 5.11 offwidth roof boulder problem out at Coyote Rocks that's worth doing if you're there, but its only 2 or 3 moves and then its over. Not really my favorite by any means.

The Warden at the Dungeon though...

I've yet to finish it, but it is soooo good.

The first pitch of Hammer is really good, but at a pretty reasonable grade. I really enjoyed it.


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Further Up and Further In 5.8
A probable first ascent of mine in Colorado, it starts with about 20 feet of kinda weird offwidth/face climbing up a corner, then a move around a chockstone onto a ledge (where I'm standing in the picture) then into the crack about 4 feet through a squeeze for about 20 feet to the top. At its tightest the squeeze is barely big enough to fit through. It goes much smoother with a webbing swami, no helmet, and the tie in knot on the side. The only pro worth bringing is one big cam. For the top anchor, just sit across the top of the crack, find a good stance and belay off your swami, or do a hip belay.
Also a nice solo.


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hmmm those ones sound pretty awesome.
sounds like the .11a offwidth roof i did this weekend. my hardest offwidth so far

My overall favorite would have to be Eeyore's Enigma (.10a) at Lover's Leap


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It goes much smoother with a webbing swami, no helmet, and the tie in knot on the side.

yeah i've heard all about using a swami, especially since my harness always gets caught, but never brought myself to using it.... Blush


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evanwish wrote:
jeremy11 wrote:
It goes much smoother with a webbing swami, no helmet, and the tie in knot on the side.

yeah i've heard all about using a swami, especially since my harness always gets caught, but never brought myself to using it.... Blush

My first time up, with the real harness, it was very tight fitting through, with the belay loop and gear loops and all, even with minimal gear.
You could get the Arcteryx WST sport harness for the same low profile, or use a $1 chunk of webbing you already have. The freedom, comfort, and weight is so nice I might use it on some long easy climbs. you can turn a 4 foot sling into leg loops with a couple overhands in the right places too, for rappeling.


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Pegasus-bruce peninsula-Ontario-canada

leading it as soon as its warm enough.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/routes/North_America/Canada/Ontario/Central_Ontario/Cape_Croker/Left_of_the_ladder/Pegasus_53168.html


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evanwish wrote:
hmmm those ones sound pretty awesome.
sounds like the .11a offwidth roof i did this weekend. my hardest offwidth so far

My overall favorite would have to be Eeyore's Enigma (.10a) at Lover's Leap


...And what .11a OW roof was that? Batmans Nightmare? Pffft! Unsure


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Another one is Orbital Ridge at Poland Hill. 10b #6 friend leavittation until it joins up with Skull. Incredibly pretty.

The first pitch of Hammer is really good, but at a pretty reasonable grade. I really enjoyed it.

Hammer (on Valley Massif at Vedauwoo). Here some px of me on it 28 years ago. Note the tube chock. Did it a few years ago. Seemed easier with two #4 Camalots.

When I was a boy we really climbed Orbital Ridge(at Poland Hill in Vedauwoo) right-side-up. None of this silly leavittation stuff.


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salamanizer wrote:
evanwish wrote:
hmmm those ones sound pretty awesome.
sounds like the .11a offwidth roof i did this weekend. my hardest offwidth so far

My overall favorite would have to be Eeyore's Enigma (.10a) at Lover's Leap


...And what .11a OW roof was that? Batmans Nightmare? Pffft! Unsure

batman can't fly.. yeah it'd be a simple 10- squeeze if you can fit in it on the river side of it but i was too big even on empty lungs so i had to traverse all the way accross that thing..


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I just did Moscow, only 5.6/7 (at smith, last weekend). It had some sweet ow sections, but I couldn't enjoy them too much since I didn't know the gear was that big up the entire route. I had several 40'+ run outs, which was VERY unnerving for me.
I also climbed a really awesome 35' splitter ow (maybe 5.10+/11-) at widgi creek in Bend. I don't know the name of it though, but it was probably the best ow I've done to date.


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robdotcalm wrote:
When I was a boy we really climbed Orbital Ridge(at Poland Hill in Vedauwoo) right-side-up. None of this silly leavittation stuff.

Rob, I didn't mean that crazy inversion stuff that Bob and Brad and Craig get so much mileage from. I just meant the combo of knee locks and hand stacks.

I've tried to use traditional offwidth technique on Orbital Ridge. I'm certain you'd get quite a laugh watching me do that. But the leavittation techniques aren't just the wacky inversion circus trick stuff, and it even makes easy stuff like the middle offwidth on Edward's Crack or Easy Jam, even easier.

When the size is right, its definitely the better way to climb an offwidth. Mind you, it simply does not work on Fantasia, or the start of Lower Slot, or Main Street, or the final 8 feet of Lower Progressive, but when it works, it works really well. As I recall, I used a ton of good old-fashioned chicken wings, arm bars, heel-toes, and (when all else failed) thrutching on Hammer and Jay's Solo. I understand Big Pink requires the same, but I have the good sense to wait on that one a little while longer.

(for those not aware, these are all at Vedauwoo, which is perhaps the very best place in the country to learn and perfect offwidth techniques)

Speaking of...

Angry, did you ever go back and send Big Pink?


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Fort Knox on Gold Bar Tower. Didn't have a name when I did it. Just had a location and some beta from a friend. All she said was "You can do it". Busted a rib mid crux. Heard it snap and it hurt to breathe for 3 months. Tipped out #5 is never awe inspiring either. Cool desert OW. Toss up between favorite OW and most memorable tower.


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Any of 'em that REQUIRE a kick-through, seem to be the most fun (read favorite) odubs lately. (taped-up, bloody emoticon)


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yeah i've been experimenting more with taping up.. my last one i taped up my tricep and ankles.. i think the tape alone brings down the grade at least a full number.. ha


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Never got along with OW, but I guess the most memorable was the Diving board in Eldo.


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evanwish wrote:
yeah i've been experimenting more with taping up.. my last one i taped up my tricep and ankles.. i think the tape alone brings down the grade at least a full number.. ha

Get high tops. I only ever tape my hands anymore, and then, only lightly. I have, however, taped clear up to my elbows on particularly unrelenting wide-hands corners.


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rhei wrote:
Ambler wrote:
Half Moon Crack on Vertigo at Cannon. Has a scary reputation, which makes it all the more fun when you find out that it's really a hike.

All depends on your size. Bigger folk find it an off-width (or layback), smaller bodies get inside and chimney. Either way, the runout is still serious.

This thread needs more pics! I've done a few of these "favorite" OWs, but this one is probably my personal fave. Plus, it's the only one I have a photo of!



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I hate all of them, but dislike this one the least. I had spyed this line, and bought a couple of wide pieces of pro to do it and had been dreading doing it. Had to wait for the snow to clear, so I had a long time to quake in fear and pee my pants repeatedly as I considered the possibility of dieing in the outback.

Spring came, snow melted. Walked up, did it ground up, and my 2 buddies, both stronger (and better looking too) than me had a more difficult time following it.



Named it "Bride of Wyde". Thanks for the mispelling tip Brutus!

I never had any wide pro before, so it was quite a nice surprise to be overprotecting something like this for once.


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Congrats!

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Wide Pride
5.10c
RRG, Ky



doesn't see a whole lot of action due to it's obscure location, but if you're into OW and in the red you should drag your crew out to lost ridge for a healthy dose.


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Ahab, wide pride looks like you could stem off the tree and chimney for rests:-)


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ahab wrote:
doesn't see a whole lot of action due to it's obscure location....
or because its an offwidth... thats the best thing about them, NEVER a line!

anybody here climbed Pratt's Crack near Bishop?
I'm hoping to climb it in a few weeks...


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Pratt's... classic. Bring #6 and larger cams, up to #4 Big Bros.

Good line.

Do it to the top for full credit.

Brutus


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ok so i [only] have a #6, a #9 valley giant and a #4 BB... that good?

any tips or recomendations for this one? I've never really done long offwidths, just a bunch of 20-30' 5.10's and a short section of .11


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evanwish wrote:
ok so i [only] have a #6, a #9 valley giant and a #4 BB... that good?

any tips or recomendations for this one? I've never really done long offwidths, just a bunch of 20-30' 5.10's and a short section of .11

Get more of the regular cams. BD #5 and 6, or Friends #5 and 6. If you can find it, get an old style (so, non C4) #4 camalot.


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petsfed wrote:
evanwish wrote:
bump.

I got on Jay's Solo out at the Short Wall last fall with edl. That thing is an absolute beast. If you do not have your technique absolutely dialed, you will get your ass handed to you by a 30 foot 5.10 offwidth. Since its so fuckin' sustained, it got respect from me.

Another one is Orbital Ridge at Poland Hill. 10b #6 friend leavittation until it joins up with Skull. Incredibly pretty. There's a sweet 5.11 offwidth roof boulder problem out at Coyote Rocks that's worth doing if you're there, but its only 2 or 3 moves and then its over. Not really my favorite by any means.

The Warden at the Dungeon though...

I've yet to finish it, but it is soooo good.

The first pitch of Hammer is really good, but at a pretty reasonable grade. I really enjoyed it.

Can you be more specific where that boulder problem is at Coyote Rocks? I'd like to give it a go next time I'm out that way.

d.


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Its immediately right (like the crack is formed by another boulder leaning against it) of Heart of Stone. Davin's book says 5.12. I don't think its that hard.


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petsfed wrote:
evanwish wrote:
ok so i [only] have a #6, a #9 valley giant and a #4 BB... that good?

any tips or recomendations for this one? I've never really done long offwidths, just a bunch of 20-30' 5.10's and a short section of .11

Get more of the regular cams. BD #5 and 6, or Friends #5 and 6. If you can find it, get an old style (so, non C4) #4 camalot.

thanks man!


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Since I last posted to this thread 5 years ago, I suppose an update is in order.

-Amplitude 12a/b, location undisclosed, a changing corners roof requiring a right foot inversion and a couple feet later a left foot inversion. Cool stuff.

-The Creek 3. The progression goes Big Guy, Big Baby, Have a Cow. After that, you know all you'll ever need to know about vertical OW splitters. All three are excellent.

-Crumbling Reality because it's mine, it's awesome, and I'm a little bit proud of it.

-Bellyful of Bad Berries, 13a, Indian Creek. I've come withing one fall of sending it a few times. Climbing long stretches on this thing without falling is just about the most rewarding climbing I've done. I don't know if I'll be psyched or let down when I send it. Probably both.

-Road Warrior on Mt. Evans. As beautiful as it is pissed.


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I just realized I didn't mention a single route in Vedauwoo.

Think of it in parable.

A young man had failing grades but a desire to learn. He hired the best tutor money could buy, a genius in her own right, to teach him. He studied for years and years but he learned. Finally he went on to do great things. Even though he got the credit, deep down, he knew that this was all the direct result of his tutor. He also had lots and lots of scars.


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[quote "brutusofwyde"]9th pitch of Magic Mushroom.

Honorable mentions:
East Face Dihedrals on Regge Pole, Little Slide Canyon
Slack Left, Yosemite
Ipecac, Joshua Tree
Horror Frake, Salathe' Wall
Vertical Turtle, City of Rocks
First pitch of Steck-Salathe', for sandbag effect

Brutus[/quote]

What kind of pro was there for Vertical Turtle? That thing looks really awesome and I've never heard of anyone climbing it.


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we just went to go climb mt. Williamson and Pratt's crack on the way back... unfortutately though by dad fractured his ankle on the aproach to the mountain so we never got a chance to get on Pratt's Crack Pirate


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punk_rocker333 wrote:
brutusofwyde wrote:
9th pitch of Magic Mushroom.

Honorable mentions:
East Face Dihedrals on Regge Pole, Little Slide Canyon
Slack Left, Yosemite
Ipecac, Joshua Tree
Horror Frake, Salathe' Wall
Vertical Turtle, City of Rocks
First pitch of Steck-Salathe', for sandbag effect

Brutus

What kind of pro was there for Vertical Turtle? That thing looks really awesome and I've never heard of anyone climbing it.

Big stuff... Big bros and big cams. I think the #4 Bros were too big, though, because higher I used one on a bolt when I ran out of draws...


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