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maculated


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My Celtic blood runs thicker than yours "Evil Tease" you wouldn't last the first minute of the first round....unless you had help from the other genuine ET.

Mick Ryan (a Mcleod and a Culligan)

Thicker, eh? You don't have your very own song, do you now? You're just a water brand. That's weak. WEAK.

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Kristin Tara McNamara (say it loud, say it proud!)


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Kristin Tara McNamara (say it loud, say it proud!)

Catholic or Orange Woman?


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Im not going to talk forever about nothing, or try to reason.

trad is the best because it is real climbing.

As chouinard said "Sport climbing and bouldering are not really climbing because they do not involve risk."

i dont agree with the exact meaning that bouldering and sport climbing arent climbing, but trad is pure climbing


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Hey, how much does she go for an hour? I can't stop thinking about her.


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No one has yet posted and I can already see that I most likely would have liked the "Why would you rather have sex with sheep instead of goats" arguement/discussion much better than this one.

dammit, bill ... why can't you keep a civil tone in this thread? once and for all, quit disparaging my beloved sheep. sheesh!

http://www.geocities.com/.../Scottish-Hooker.jpg

I believe you MEANT to say, Love Sheep, not beloved sheep.

Trad is just better. Cause it is. Yeah. Go polish your sport draws now.


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I like pancakes more. And gin and tonics.


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add mac's and bandycoot's responses to get mine. plus i get to own insane amounts of shiny stuff. that makes me happy too. :D

Stuff still shiny eh? :lol:

yeah, i forgot to mention the bling-bling.

its hard to impress people when they ask about climbing when you just say: "i clip these to bolts in the rock". Its really easy to impress when you show them a #7 BD stopper and say, "I fell 25 ft and this is the only thing that prevented me from splatting into the ground." Or, show them a tri-cam ... they work by fairy dust. Or, show them a cam, they work by magic. Troll-magic powers sliding nuts. Big bros work on a graduate engineering thesis's hypothesis (you know, less than a law is a theory, less than a theory is a hypothesis). The reason cams work is a theory, not even a law, i believe.

bling-bling! bling bling bling bling bling.

all i need are some gold-plated camalots. and spinners, lots of spinners. and some neon lights on my rack ... and a stereo that bounces. bling bling.

coylec

ps - yummy pancakes


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I climb in a speedo and lube my cheeks.

The light bounces better off my cheeks when climbing cracks. This is why I prefer trad.

Hey Rockfax, I'd jump in Maculated's corner, but she doesn't need my help. You're a goner dude.


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I climb in a speedo and lube my cheeks.

With what? Are you the guy in the Most Embarassing Climbing Moment thread who visited the chocolate hailstorm on himself? Mt. Evans is in your backyard.


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trad is rad, dad!


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Nobody knows guilt 'till they're a good Irish Catholic, Mick! :)

I'm the queen of guilt! :)


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actually, i'm currently upgrading my rack from a light trad rack to a light/medium aid rack (or a monster trad rack, however you want to call it), so yeah, some of it is still shiny. :)

course, i'm proud to say that all of my original rack is nicely dull and battered.

i really need to get outside and scuff the rest of my stuff up! clip it to the back of the truck for the drive out there. :twisted:


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Nobody knows guilt 'till they're a good Irish Catholic, Mick! :)

I'm the queen of guilt! :)

Hey, let me tell you about my mother......I mean my Catholic guilt.

Be-jesus I was nearly enrolled in a Jesuit seminary. Which could explain why I never actually reached manhood.

5 years as an altar boy and 7 as a choirboy scarred me 4lyfe. But I did get to sing in some wonderful English cathedrals.

M


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I read before:

"Trad will take you where no other form of climbing can."


I enjoy the Chess Game that is Trad... Not only the physical parts of climbing, but the keen eye to place good pro, and the stones needed to climb far above it if needed yet still keep it all together.


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Easy answer.

When you get to the top trad, you know for sure that YOU did the climb. You didn't have a top rope or bolts as crutches. Just you, the rock, and of course as many toys as you can afford!

Now I'm not diss'in TR or sport, they both have their place. But the personal satisfaction just doesn't compare, not even close.


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Nobody knows guilt 'till they're a good Irish Catholic, Mick! :)

I'm the queen of guilt! :)

Hey, let me tell you about my mother......I mean my Catholic guilt.

Be-jesus I was nearly enrolled in a Jesuit seminary. Which could explain why I never actually reached manhood.
5 years as an altar boy and 7 as a choirboy scarred me 4lyfe. But I did get to sing in some wonderful English cathedrals.

M

I've got you both beat: French/Irish Catholic. I can run guilt-rings around you. Also, 13 years taught by nuns and priests, and still came away anally unscathed. I swear!

For trad, it's setting up that final anchor on a climb, especially one that gives you the shakes, and bringing up your partner. The 10 minutes reflection afterward, keeping your wits about you as you Class 4 descend or rap off and, if time permits, setting up for another climb. If not, it's off for a beer.


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Over other types of climbing?

What is special about it?

Mick

Trad is inherently dangerous and made safe only by your application of skill, knowledge, experience and wisdom. Special enough?

Sport is inherently safe, and can be made dangerous only by ignorance, recklessness and stupidity.

Bouldering is hoora good (Campbeltown expression), especially highball, scares me sh*tless but I still do it.

Free soloing is the scariest, sometimes I do that, but usually only by accident, you know, going scrambling, and getting off route, could happen to anyone, quite character-building. :twisted:


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Trad is inherently dangerous and made safe only by your application of skill, knowledge, experience and wisdom. Special enough?

Sport is inherently safe, and can be made dangerous only by ignorance, recklessness and stupidity.

HAHAHAHA, Great answer-- Scotland forever!


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Trad is inherently dangerous and made safe only by your application of skill, knowledge, experience and wisdom. Special enough?

Sport is inherently safe, and can be made dangerous only by ignorance, recklessness and stupidity.

HAHAHAHA, Great answer-- Scotland forever!

I like you, not a lot, but I do like you (Paul Daniels, magician)


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trad is rad, dad!


OK son, no need to patronise us old guys, me luvs ya'wl :twisted:


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I also have to say that as my focus shifts from climbing the absolute most extremely difficult things I can yank myself up to the adventure of it all, I have moved away from sport climbing and into trad. The hardest thing I've climbed this year would have been a warmup (on bolts) when I was at my strongest, but I just get more out of it. When I'm driving home now, I feel a greater sense of personal satisfaction and accomplishment. I believe it comes from knowing that I was completely responsible for my protection and my safety up there. My head was just as (if not more) responsible for success than were my muscles.

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