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calamity_chk
Jun 2, 2004, 10:17 PM
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i'd probably end up puking up blood or something equally sexy. i'll stick with cliffsides for a while longer.
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minus148
Jun 2, 2004, 11:51 PM
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Definitely, but aesthetics and cost do figure into the equation. For now, though, I'll be happy to get to test 6000 meters.
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wallwombat
Jun 3, 2004, 5:44 AM
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In reply to: No. For me climbing is about the enjoyment of moving over rock or ice, the aesthetics of the line.
I agree, but there are some amazingly aesthetic lines on 8000m peaks. Just look at some of the routes on the south face of Annapurna or the Polish/Mexican route up the Rupal face of Nanga Parbat or the French Pillar on Makalu or any number of other routes on other 8000m peaks. There are some pretty cool lines out there that involve moving over a hell of a lot of rock and ice. Sure, a lot of the standard routes up the big 14 are long, arduous snow slogs but there are plenty of fantastic lines to repeat on these mountains.
Cost, age and fear of dying would probably limit me to smaller peaks, myself, but if given the opportunity I might not be able to say no. To me, a native of Australia, 6000m is pretty, bloody huge. 8000m would be absolutely mind blowing.
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the_antoon
Jun 5, 2004, 5:33 AM
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yes...anything i could scrap up enough money to do
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ullr
Jun 5, 2004, 5:55 AM
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Cho Oyu if I had the funds and a pair of skis for the descent.
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tradman
Jun 9, 2004, 11:34 AM
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Yeah man, I'd climb an 8000er.
Not so I can say I did it, or so I can stand on the summit - I just dig the life, yeah? I love waking in a bivi, love the friendships, love the joking and laughing and the working towards something.
I guess it boils down to why you want to climb - I just like to be there, away from all the BS (the below s**t) moving upwards, pitching, clipping, rapping and surviving. On an 8000m peak you get more time up there, more of the good stuff I guess.
That's all.
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catbiter
Jun 9, 2004, 11:42 AM
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No not really. I don't like the cold.
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breadedchicken
Jun 9, 2004, 1:52 PM
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Well, there is always a first time for everything.
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kris_g
Jun 9, 2004, 2:49 PM
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Just how much is it to try?
I hear Everest that's about $50,000.
K2 is much cheaper (maybe they pay people to go there :? )
what about the rest? Makalu, Manaslu, Dhaulagiri, Nanga Parbat, etc. what's the average cost of participating in an expedition? anyone know?
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silkyerm
Jun 9, 2004, 3:06 PM
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No desire whatsoever. I don't like the 30 minute approach to the local crag. I don't see how doing something like that could be enjoyable; a good feeling of accomplishment maybe, but not enjoyable. However, I do look forward to getting a chance to climb about 3,500 feet strait up (el cap).
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steamboatclimber
Jun 9, 2004, 3:56 PM
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If money and time were free.... all the things we could do.
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tilt
Jun 9, 2004, 4:07 PM
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any and all of them...... i'm really into mountain climbing right now and have climbed a most major muntains in WA state
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drake
Jun 10, 2004, 5:03 PM
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I am drawn to asthetic lines beatiful peaks. I like mixed terrain. I have only been to 20K in Alaska and that was kinda tuff. Not the terrain but the thinner air. It has a tendancy to take the fun out of climbing. I spent a day with Portugual's(sp?) best alpinist. He is one of the few that has "climbed" Everest. Climbed it without oxygen. As of 2002, only 80 have actually done that. He had a lot of insight into climbing BIG peaks.
Anyway, since climbing to 8000 meters requires using suplimental oxygen for most of us motals, most will not climb a big peak with aid. Or bringing that peak down to an altitude with can handle (25K or 26K). Is that "climbing a 8000 meter peak"? I not saying climbing with oxygen is bad and you gotta do what you gotta do to get to the summit. And using oxygen is, for the most part, totally acceptable in the climbing community. I am just more of a purest (old school) when it comes to climbing and I would climb 8000m peaks if I could it w/out O2 and as cleanly as possible.
That said, I was recently invited to join an team to try Everest and I turned it down due to lack of funds. I have read about K2's North Ridge and would have trouble not going due to the shear beauty of the peak and route. I would also have to use oxygen. Would it be worth bringing it down to my level.............
But have you seen Gasherbrum IV? geeze!!! or little ole Annapurna III at 7555m? Whoooho!
Feeling unworthy of such awsome peaks, I will stick to the little projects I have planned over the next few years. Some not over 12K but have 4000' mixed climbing that make me drool. There are 9000' mixed routes with every kind of climbing known to man below 17k to 21K. So there is not huge draw for me to suffer "thin air".
Thinner air means a weaker John which means route with lesser angle which means more hiking and less climbing which means an unhappy John.
Just my .02
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tradman
Jun 11, 2004, 4:16 PM
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Yeah I'll second that John. You don't have to get high to have fun. There's loads of great winter climbing on Ben Nevis, and you can be in and out in a day, no problem.
I'd love to go to 8000, but altitude means time. I'm off to the alps in a few weeks with my dad and sister and brother-in-law. Sis and her husband live there, so they get high regularly. Me and my old man, we'll be staggering around like drunks hating every second of the first two days or so, wondering why we're carrying ropes and tools when I can hardly lift our own feet.
Getting high is good, but good climbing is better.
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rockinice
Jun 11, 2004, 4:55 PM
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maybe and only cho oyu
i did a 6856 meter peak in the khumbu 5 years ago--it's an extreme amount of work, but in one of the most magnificent and beautiful places in the world so the rewards are abundant...i'm ready to go back.....as soon as it's a little safer for americans to travel abroad!
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crshbrn84
Jun 11, 2004, 5:01 PM
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well, i would like to maybe someday try everest or k2, but i know that esp right now, there is no way i would do either. I have a goal where in less than 5 years i want to climb denali, and after that maybe something larger but even still, that is really hard and takes alot of training. Maybe someday, if all i ever end up doing is climbing
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trailbound71
Jun 12, 2004, 12:44 AM
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only K2
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akicebum
Jun 13, 2004, 4:18 AM
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The only question worth asking is why? Is it the line of ascent that is so appealing? There are many beautiful and fantastic lines on these 8000m peaks that see only a few ascents because most people believe that a summit is a success, which, after the financial commitment some people make, is. The Pakistani ministry of tourism is currently putting me on hold as far as my permits go for next summer, but I had intended on going over to attempt several peaks in the Karakoram and Gasherbrum. Even as I plan these expeditions I wonder why I am not attempting a more asthetic mountain. To answer the thread, I do want to climb 8000m peaks but I don't want to use oxygen or fixed lines or end up on route with hundreds of the other people waiting for a weather window to get another summit photo for their office.
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manicacrophilic
Jun 13, 2004, 6:42 AM
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Just that and i will be done with my life.....So, who is taking me along???
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mccombs07
Dec 24, 2005, 5:12 PM
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Ive got to reopen this thread. I never really wanted to do an 8000 peak until I learned of the new route on the Rupal Face of Nanga Parbat. I had squashed the idea because for some reason I always dreaded the thought of some agency taking me up a hike through snow with porters. But now I realize (and not just because of NP) that some ridiculous routes can go on these bad boys. And I hope to one day to a few badass lines myself.
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fear
Dec 24, 2005, 5:45 PM
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In reply to: .......And I hope to one day to a few badass lines myself.
Just know your dealer. Some of the stuff on the street these days is wicked strong and might kill you...
-Fear
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mccombs07
Dec 24, 2005, 8:22 PM
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Yeah good point. But who can you really trust these days?
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graniteavenger
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For the cost of going on a trip to an 8000er, I could have a lot of very long and productive trips throughout Canada. I mean, if you want to wank over the numbers, yeah, go for it. If you truly just enjoy being out there, the movement, the effort, the experience, I'd take the more trips throughout Canada. :wink: Just think of the untouched peaks and virgin lines you could get to, rather than working up a super established route.
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johngenx
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Yeah, the Canadian Rockies has some amazing climbs and they're all under 4000M. I could spend a lifetime climbing those mountains alone and never come close to "doing it all."
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