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wbclimb
Sep 27, 2004, 11:41 AM
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94 Chevy z71 Pick up short bed. Yaks on the top, Rack in the back, bikes on the bumper. It is home away from home. The MPG is about 20 per on the hwy which some don't like but I use mine for evrything from climbs to SAR to crashing in back with the wife and beer. Oh yeah there is room in there for evrything and sitting up on a raining day. Don't do a carpet though it's like living out of a duffel bag.
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snorro
Sep 27, 2004, 11:55 AM
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Volks Jetta Diesel wagon. :lol:
Word!
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overlord
Sep 27, 2004, 12:08 PM
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get a volvo, opel (i think its vauxhall or sometihng in the states) or VW (audi, skoda) wagon. preferably diesel.
i can sleep in our skoda octavia combi, as well as in my buddys opel kadet (its older than me). theyre really comfy because when you fold the seats you get a nice level surface becasue the cars were designed for easy loading/unloading.
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slacklinejoe
Sep 28, 2004, 4:33 PM
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I know everyone has perked up saying trucks guzzle gas however say a s-10 with a 4 cyl engine will get 29 mpg on the highway and they are dirt cheap yet pretty damn reliable. With modifications and proper maintenance you can get 5 more MPG (high cap air filter, less restrictive exhaust and intake).
That whole camper shell bit isn't bad at all to sleep in. Even though it's a small truck it sleeps one very comfortably and with a platform it can fit 2 nicely.
I paid a little over 2K for my '95 in perfect condition and I drove it for 3 years on mountians until it met it's demise last week (slick wet twisty roads, car in front of me slide out of control, I braked too hard to avoid them and went off the mountain edge). I'm looking for another cept extended cab and v6 this time. Cheap little beasties, even mechanical parts of them are cheap and almost nothing goes wrong with 'em.
Failing the pickup bit, I'd vote for an Subaru wagon.
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davidji
Sep 28, 2004, 4:44 PM
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In reply to: I know everyone has perked up saying trucks guzzle gas however say a s-10 with a 4 cyl engine will get 29 mpg on the highway and they are dirt cheap yet pretty damn reliable. With modifications and proper maintenance you can get 5 more MPG (high cap air filter, less restrictive exhaust and intake).
I'm surprised by your 29MPG number as well. Do you get repeated measurements of 29? Typically driving at what speed? With the vaguaries of measuring fuel consumption it's easy to measure high for one tank, low for the next.
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jdouble
Sep 28, 2004, 5:07 PM
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Minivan! The Toyota Sienna has better clearence than most, has the fold into the floor seats, got great reviews, has a rediculously big sunroof in the back, and roll down windows in the back. Go rent one for a weekend trip and try it out, you will be hooked.
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jadalian
Sep 28, 2004, 5:36 PM
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how about a toyota matrix the come in 2 wheel or all wheel drive I love mine hauls four ice climbers, one set of skis, all the gear and gets 36 miles to the gallon :D
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brutusofwyde
Sep 29, 2004, 12:14 AM
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In reply to: how about a toyota matrix the come in 2 wheel or all wheel drive I love mine hauls four ice climbers, one set of skis, all the gear and gets 36 miles to the gallon :D
1. gutless
2. not available in manual transmission
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gavran
Sep 29, 2004, 12:44 AM
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I have a 1990 Acura Integra hatchback.
I took all the seats out, except for the driver's, and built a removeable wooden platform that goes from the front-to-trunk. I am 6 foot 1 and have plenty of room, plus I can open the sunroof and look at the stars. 30+ mpg and honda reliability. If I ever become poor, it will become mi casa.
I try to post some pics.
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Sean, if you're worried about the laugh-at-ability factor of a minivan, I want you to close your eyes, think about the MIATA you used to drive, and then think about the license plate...
That's all.
Okay, don't hate me. :)
Tim, am I wrong?
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oops, del sol, I mean. Same thing.
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grigriese
Sep 29, 2004, 12:54 AM
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I traded in F150 4x4 in April for a Honda Element. A friend of mine had one and after thinking it was just a silly looking car we went on a road trip. I got one 3 weeks later. Love it! I have taken it on nearly a dozen road trips. Have slept on the floor with plenty of room - you push the seats forward and there's about six and half feet of space. It's 4wd not all wheel drive. I can put a 9 foot surf board inside the car, I've done (it would certainly hold a longer board). My boyfriend has a full size 4x4 Chevy truck with an extended cab and shell and we still usually take my silly looking car on road trips!
It looks like an orange toaster. But it has tons of room inside for such a small vehicle.
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baja_java
Sep 29, 2004, 7:52 PM
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In reply to: Sean, if you're worried about the laugh-at-ability factor of a minivan, I want you to close your eyes, think about the MIATA you used to drive, and then think about the license plate... That's all. Okay, don't hate me. :) Tim, am I wrong? In reply to: oops, del sol, I mean. Same thing.
NO!!! hardly the same thing! the Del Sol is 10,000x more studly than a Miata. amazed you would think the two are remotely similar. el Del Sol. la Miata. see? one decidedly masculine. the other quite girly. just learned that in class the other day. and c'mon, Del Sol, Of the Sun, which conveys a spirit of stallion galloping freedom and glary brightness that only the most studly can handle, even with shades on
and about the license plate, as have been impassioningly emphasized to you before, it's a COMMUNITY PLATE, one that conveys to others the spirit of South Bay, you know, the spirit and sense of our community, the land and seascape beauty, the laid back fun in the sun, the kind of carefree casual mellowness that would induce even the harshest of wife beaters to chill out if just for that one night, upon laying eyes on that license plate. please refrain from lashing out at me just because your own license plate doesn't have as much of a social impact as mine. thank you
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carbo
Sep 29, 2004, 8:47 PM
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Sounds like you are ready for a minivan :lol:
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gat
Sep 29, 2004, 9:23 PM
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I traded in a Jeep Cherokee for a gulp...minivan (family getting bigger). Once I took it on a roadtrip I was hooked. Waaaay comfy for 4 adults w/ tons-o-room for gear. Huge amounts of roof-top rack space to accomodate boats etc...
Mine's setup with a 2" receiving hitch to which I attach a rack for 4 bikes (swings out of the way so the hatch can be opened without removing the bikes) and a roof rack to haul the boats. With the 3rd row bench pulled, 4 people have their own bucket seats, their own ac/heat control and huge amounts of space behind for gear and the ever important full size cooler (or two). Basically four of us can take our boats, bikes, climbing gear and all the other gear.
One last thing I think is great...you go someplace and kick your own butt hard for days. Then you have to end the trip on the long, too often uncomfortable ride home. With a minivan, there is no uncomfortable ride home.
Oh yeah, in my ramblings I forgot...I get 20+ mpg on the highway fully loaded.
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crackboy
Sep 29, 2004, 9:27 PM
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the honda CRV also folds down fro trunk to front in a single layer, and it gets pretty good mileage on top of that it doesn't look nearly as bad as the element and isn't a giganto SUV
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ntu_soca
Sep 29, 2004, 9:29 PM
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"NO!!! hardly the same thing! the Del Sol is 10,000x more studly than a Miata. amazed you would think the two are remotely similar. el Del Sol. la Miata. see? one decidedly masculine. the other quite girly. just learned that in class the other day. and c'mon, Del Sol, Of the Sun, which conveys a spirit of stallion galloping freedom and glary brightness that only the most studly can handle, even with shades on
and about the license plate, as have been impassioningly emphasized to you before, it's a COMMUNITY PLATE, one that conveys to others the spirit of South Bay, you know, the spirit and sense of our community, the land and seascape beauty, the laid back fun in the sun, the kind of carefree casual mellowness that would induce even the harshest of wife beaters to chill out if just for that one night, upon laying eyes on that license plate. please refrain from lashing out at me just because your own license plate doesn't have as much of a social impact as mine. thank you "
AAAWWWHHAHHHAHAHAHH!!! Talk about laughability, I just fell out of my chair.
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packclimber
Sep 29, 2004, 9:29 PM
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I got a 98 Concorde sleeps two in pass and driver seat huge trunk hey it works pretty good gas mileage too might be something for you to check out
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Old school (~89) Volvo 240 wagons are the way to go!!!!! I've slept 2 people completely horizontal and straight all the time. Also long enough to fit a 9'6" longboard completely inside.
Great gas mileage for a old car (~27) and they run for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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baja_java
Sep 29, 2004, 10:40 PM
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ok, so far, mid size SUV's are out, all just a little short to sleep in after folding up the rear seats. Nissan Xterra just fits, but head and feet flush against seat and cargo door, conduction of heat or cold that i'd rather do without. and the very low mpg made it an easy drop
Subaru Outback and Forester would fit me only if plan to have wrench on hand to remove tilted up bottom of rear seats and piling belongings to add few more inches of flat sleeping space, neither in mood to do if pulling in late at night. but both just fit if under 5'6 or so. asked for but there wasn't a '99 Legacy Outback Wagon available to see if longer
looked at some normal sized sedans there at the lots, like the Nissan Maxima. there's an opening to the trunk once the rear seats fold down, just enough for one body to poke through. but there's a big moat where the seat folded, and a crooked tilt from trunk up to folded backseats. tolerable for one person in a pinch, but that's about it. bigger and wider sedans like Camry and Dodge/Chrysler 4 DR's would accomodate the sleeping, nice flat area wide enough for two, but a boat to commute to work with
am ok with a station wagon or minivan now actually, casting aside all fetters of society, breaking free. both would also be a lot of vehicle to commute in though, so feeling same about either and say the lightest 4-cyl 2wd pickup truck that i can get away with, which offers also ground clearance. not a major factor, but would be nice for the rugged roads leading to the more wayward campgrounds or whitewater put-ins and pull-outs
so, after all the research and checking out the lots, weighing pro's and con's and personal values and influence of society, am leaning toward either a Nissan Frontier or Toyota Tacoma, 4CYL, 2WD, reg 6' truck bed, camper shell. 4 short list choices at the lots. got their price ranges dialed in. picking out the sharp knives to work on enemy car salesmen. slaughterhouse haggling soon!!
thanks again for all the input
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tradmanclimbs
Sep 30, 2004, 12:01 AM
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If you are at all serious about liveing on the road there are only 2 choices without going for the RV thing..
#1 Van . Preferably a Vanagon westy but I modifyed a non pop up Syncro 4X4 to include a nice kitchen as well as the standard queen sized bed. Lived in that puppy for 113K. (also have lived in a Westy) Now in a 97 Aerostar AWD 20mpg. built a deck for a nice bed with storage underneath. No room for a kitchen though. ford, chevy and dodge custom vans look nice but probobly gas guzzelers.
#2 Mid sized pickup truck with cap. build a deck for a bed and storege underneath. Cook on the tailgate. the vanagons Kick A$$ when it comes to cooking in bad weather. wake up in a snowstorm or rainstorm. No worries just cook breakfast in bed 8^)
I have also lived on the road in reguler cars. It SUCKS compared to a van.
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I agree completely! The Westfalia is the best nomadic climbing vehicle as far as I'm concerned. Everything he said plus if you have a pop top there is 7 1/2 feet of room to stand up in it!! Goes everyplace a car does, has just about every comfort that an RV does. If you get serious about buying one though and dont want to work on it constanty then look into the 86-91 year models, or to make it easier look for the ones with the square headlights as opposed to the round headlights. These are water-cooled and more hassle free in general then the earlier models. Top quality 86 Westy will run you 8000 and up....top quality 91 Westy will run you 15000 and up. They are worth every penny and if you take care of it you will be able to sell it for close to what you payed for it!
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