By SAM DOLNICK, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - After winning re-election and "reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style," President George Bush for the second time was chosen as Time magazine's Person of the Year.

The magazine's editors tapped Bush "for sharpening the debate until the choices bled, for reframing reality to match his design, for gambling his fortunes — and ours — on his faith in the power of leadership."

Time's 2004 Person of the Year package, on newsstands Monday, includes an Oval Office interview with Bush, an interview with his father, former President George H. W. Bush, and a profile of Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove.

In an interview with the magazine, Bush attributed his victory over Democratic candidate John Kerry to his foreign policy and the wars he began in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"The election was about the use of American influence," Bush said.

After a grueling campaign, Bush remains a polarizing figure in America and around the world, and that's part of the reason he earned the magazine's honor, said Managing Editor Jim Kelly.

"Many, many Americans deeply wish he had not won," Kelly said in a telephone interview. "And yet he did." ............

It is interesting to look back at that entire list, isn't it? Whereas some people on that list had relatively little long term impact on the world, there is no doubt that they were extremely important figures in their time. Of course, some people on that list also changed the world forever. Interesting choices, indeed.

Curt

"The election was about the use of American influence," Bush said.

•I attacked and took over 2 countries.

•I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

•I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history (not easy!).

•I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

•I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

•I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

•In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history (tough to beat my dad's, but I did).

•After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.

•I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.

•In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.

•I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.

•I set the all-time record for most real estate foreclosures in a 12-month period.

•I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

•I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president, since the advent of TV.

•I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other US president in history.

•I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

•I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

•I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

•I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

•I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.

•Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.)

•I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.

•I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.

•I am the first president in US history to order a US attack AND military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.

•I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland Security"(only one letter away from BS).

•I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history (Ronnie was tough to beat, but I did it!!).

•I am the first president in US history to compel the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.

•I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.

•I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

•I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. I withdrew from the World Court of Law.

•I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

•I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.

•I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

•The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

•I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

•I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

•I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.

•I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

•I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

•I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

•I set the all-time record for the number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.

•I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

•I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

•RECORDS AND REFERENCES: I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

•I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during time of war.

•I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. (wink,wink)

•All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

•All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

•All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

•Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

This is what you do to get Time's Person of the year?! :evil:

PS - I vote Curt "Troll of the Year" for having the best trolls on the site, including this one. :D

Hey, thanks man. Its not that easy you know. 8^)

Curt

•I attacked and took over 2 countries.

•I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

•I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history (not easy!).

•I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies... etc, etc, etc

Thanks for the list grimpiperx. I'm invited to a Bush Bashing Party in Jan and the list will come in handy for the games.

By SAM DOLNICK, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - After winning re-election and "reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style," President George Bush for the second time was chosen as Time magazine's Person of the Year.

The magazine's editors tapped Bush "for sharpening the debate until the choices bled, for reframing reality to match his design, for gambling his fortunes — and ours — on his faith in the power of leadership."

Purely as a side-note, it's also interesting that there hasn't been a non-american winner for 10 years.

My guess is because it's the u.s. time magazine.
Like it was posted earlier - we have our own time "person of the year"

If you are a Kerry-humping democrat, it must have felt a little something like this...

http://hometown.aol.com/...5872/images/budd.jpg

And that would be weird too considering he has the charisma of a monkey :wink: :lol:

Waaaaaaaaaa! Someone is making fun of my boyfriend.

No problem, allways happy to spread the word :righton: Where is this party? :wink:

There is some debate as to what is the densest matter in the universe. VR is rapidly gaining on the top spot.

Please don't even consider comparing Bush in the same vein as Winston Churchill. I find that highly offensive.

:evil:

Merry Christmas

It's good to see liberals making historically ignorant and offensive comparisons between Bush and Hitler, and the usual "Bush is a monkey" type statements. Please keep it up for another four years, that way you'll just about guarantee another Republican gets elected in 2008.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator," said Adolf Hitler.

"God told me to strike at Al Qa'ida and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. With the might of God on our side we will triumph," said George Bush

It's good to see liberals making historically ignorant and offensive comparisons between Bush and Hitler, and the usual "Bush is a monkey" type statements. Please keep it up for another four years, that way you'll just about guarantee another Republican gets elected in 2008.

This thread is now exceeding even my wildest expectations.

Curt

Yes, and an entertainer of dumbass conspiracy theories, way to go.

factual information=conspiracy theory? :? :? :? where'd u come up with that load of steaming horse crap?? grimpiperx's post is valid(and awesome) and ur tiny brain was so overwhelmed by the barrage of unyielding truth that all you could do was senselessly bash the post with completely false and unsupported accusations...bravo

I'm doing my part :lol:

Merely an inside joke for the resident Churchill expert. You're not him!

There's nothing factual, truthful or "awesome" about suggesting that Bush orchestrated the 9-11 attacks in order to seize new levels of power. If you believe more than two sentences of that "awesome" post I'd suggest you look into getting on some anti-paranoia medication.

There's nothing factual, truthful or "awesome" about suggesting that Bush orchestrated the 9-11 attacks in order to seize new levels of power. If you believe more than two sentences of that "awesome" post I'd suggest you look into getting on some anti-paranoia medication.

Yar, as am I :)

Seriously, Bluto, whether or not Bush is or is not becoming a dictator that plans to take over the world is a theory. But the information within the post is fact not theory, there is a actual difference. Do you have anything for Bush that is Truth and Facts? :o not just Jingoism and Smearing?

historically ignorant and offensive comparisons between Bush and Hitler

I simply found it silly that you said . When there is plenty to back it up. I do not plan on "promoting my cause" on RC.com. I think we can all agree thats not a great idea. I find it annoying that you still say it is ignorant, with out any thing to back up your own statements.

Nothing personal but I don't give a rats ass - it is offensive. Especially if you are like me ENGLISH!

It's also obvious that you don't understand the difference between facts, and the suggestions, speculations, assertions etc.

But Bluto, it's so much easier to start with the conclusion you want, and then selectively pick 'facts' to support it! :lol:

Quote:
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator," said Adolf Hitler.

"God told me to strike at Al Qa'ida and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did. With the might of God on our side we will triumph," said George Bush

There seems to be a direct corelation between one's side being out of power, and the willingness to engage in ignorant conspiracy theories. During the Clinton years it was the right wing extremists with all the talk of black helicopters and the UN imposed "one world government". Now it's the lefts turn, and they are making quite a showing with all the Bush=Hitler nonsense.

if you look close he greatly resembles a monkey as well

Those pictures kinda disprove the creationist point of view.

The election was about fear!!! :x

Bluto, you're being trolled by tag-team 16-year-olds. Or trolls claiming to be kids. Either way, it doesn't offer much dignity ;)

My topiccc............My topic!...its meellting......meeeeellttting! :cry:
Where is Bluto to restore the serious arguement we were having?! ::humph:: Yea yea Curt I know its your topic but I was having fun with Bluto.

Hey, have at it. I just start these things by lighting the fuse--and then run away. :lol:

Curt

I'm just in awe of you. Seriously.

More logs for the fire! Time magazine's commercials don't show the 2004 Person of the Year ... they show the 2003 "Person of the Year" = the American Soldier. Is this a advertising scheme to appeal to the less divisive "patriotism" or evidence of a liberal media bias?

coylec

Exactly!

Ummmm.... (rummage rummage).... is that it now?

Eventually, the truth comes out and the latest batch of leftwing zealots will quietly depart with their tails between their legs.

That lengthy bit of propaganda back on page page three kind of set the tone of this discussion.

You probably think it's all accurate and true.

On a side note - your screen name looks like a dyslexic combination of melanoma and chlamydia.

even though all we have done in this thread is bring truths to light, and all you have done is bash either us or our posts?

On a side note - your screen name looks like a dyslexic combination of melanoma and chlamydia.

even though all we have done in this thread is bring truths to light

This thread is a hoot!! Remember people, it's Time magazine we're talking about. :boring:

d.

Yet you proved him right.

When lefties get called for telling a bunch of lies, they say it's bashing.

I missed where this thread was about providing a solid argument justifying support for Bush. Maybe I'm unobservant or maybe.... just maybe.... you're making stuff up. How out of character.

Yar, as am I :)

Seriously, Bluto, whether or not Bush is or is not becoming a dictator that plans to take over the world is a theory. But the information within the post is fact not theory, there is a actual difference. Do you have anything for Bush that is Truth and Facts? :o not just Jingoism and Smearing?

Time made a good choice for person of the year. Bush was overwhelmingly re-elected to a second term as President of our great country. He is leading an unpopular war, fighting terrorism, helping to improve the economy that Clinton destroyed and is constantly in the spotlight for all of these reasons. He has an interesting life story. Really, who else would have been a candidate?

Ummmm.... (rummage rummage).... is that it now?

Time made a good choice for person of the year. Bush was overwhelmingly re-elected to a second term as President of our great country. He is leading an unpopular war, fighting terrorism, helping to improve the economy that Clinton destroyed and is constantly in the spotlight for all of these reasons. He has an interesting life story. Really, who else would have been a candidate?

Time made a good choice for person of the year. Bush was overwhelmingly re-elected to a second term as President of our great country. He is leading an unpopular war, fighting terrorism, helping to improve the economy that Clinton destroyed and is constantly in the spotlight for all of these reasons. He has an interesting life story. Really, who else would have been a candidate?

Who the f--- cares?

First, only 59 million out of the country's 300 million voted; out of them, Bush won by only 3 million, i.e. 1 percent of the population, harldy "overwhelming." :roll:

To all those flumoxed and flustuered here is a little secret:

It is really not a meaningful award. In fact, it does not even include a subscription.