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gringorio
Jan 3, 2005, 11:07 PM
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I have a rope going on 10 years old. For the last 8 years is has sat in a rope bag in the attic. Before that it had moderate use for top roping. Is it still safe for top roping or should I just throw it into the trunk of my car and use it as a tow rope? thanks!
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akclimber
Jan 3, 2005, 11:51 PM
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Evidence. :lol:
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lv2climb7
Jan 3, 2005, 11:53 PM
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curt
Jan 3, 2005, 11:57 PM
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It's always nice when people who have no clue respond to a question such as this one. The rope is fine for TR use, unless you can see some obvious damage. Unless, of course, this attic is in someplace like Phoenix, AZ. Haha. Curt
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wolfram
Jan 4, 2005, 12:12 AM
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In reply to: Unless, of course, this attic is in someplace like Phoenix, AZ. Curt Serious question -- what sort of heat will do damage to a rope. Can serious (phoenix) attic heat cause damage? Also -- what I'm really wondering -- can the heat generated in a car in the summer generate enough heat to damage a rope?
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coldclimb
Jan 4, 2005, 12:26 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Unless, of course, this attic is in someplace like Phoenix, AZ. Curt Serious question -- what sort of heat will do damage to a rope. Can serious (phoenix) attic heat cause damage? Also -- what I'm really wondering -- can the heat generated in a car in the summer generate enough heat to damage a rope? There was a giant thread debating this not too long ago. A forum search might find it for you, I think there were some good points brought up there that you might be interested in. :)
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coldclimb
Jan 4, 2005, 12:33 AM
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And by the way, if you decide to toss it, I can always use an old climbing rope. I'll pay shipping. :)
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wolfram
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In reply to: There was a giant thread debating this not too long ago. A forum search might find it for you, I think there were some good points brought up there that you might be interested in. :) got it....thanks. I'm always learning....
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Jan 4, 2005, 12:39 AM
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Jan 4, 2005, 12:45 AM
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Your rope should still be fine for toproping. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that after about 5 years a dynamic rope begins to lose its elasticity...and it shouldn't be used for leading anymore. I know that I remember a guy saying that the rope he was toproping on was 10 years old. My first ropes are about 5 years old now and I plan to continue using them to toprope. As for nylon deteriorating under normal conditions: I left a section of climbing rope in the back for my truck for almost a year and when it came time to tow someone at of the mud it had no problems.
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curt
Jan 4, 2005, 1:10 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: It's always nice when people who have no clue respond to a question such as this one. The rope is fine for TR use, unless you can see some obvious damage. I'm not saying that the rope wouldn't neccesarily be safe for toproping, but they have conducted studies showing that nylon only has a certain shelf life and can deteriorate. and this has happened as early as five years, 10 years mya be pushing it...correct me if I'm wrong? What "studies" are you referencing? There have been numerous other threads on this site concerned with the same topic and the studies cited there indicated that ropes age from use, rather than from time. 20 year old, never used, nylon ropes are as good as new as long as they were stored properly. I'm lazy. You can do a search for those references. Curt
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gringorio
Jan 4, 2005, 3:06 AM
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Thanks for all the great replies. I'll take a look at that other thread mentioned here before I decide to use the rope or not. In the mean time I think I'll clean all the mice turds out of my old chalk bag...
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Jan 4, 2005, 3:51 AM
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In reply to: buy a new one because your old one probably isn't as good as some newer ones on the market rope or chalkbag? :)
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Jan 4, 2005, 3:57 AM
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Jan 4, 2005, 4:03 AM
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Jan 4, 2005, 4:10 AM
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In reply to: curt wrote: In reply to: It's always nice when people who have no clue respond to a question such as this one. The rope is fine for TR use, unless you can see some obvious damage. Unless, of course, this attic is in someplace like Phoenix, AZ. Haha. Yes .... Curt knows everything about everything .... Then, at the other end of the spectrum, is you. -Jay
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Jan 4, 2005, 4:24 AM
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Jan 4, 2005, 6:43 AM
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10 years old? I am 5 ropes down the road in that time. If you gotta ask, you gotta toss it. To me spending $ 100.00 on a good rope when its on sale is a no brainer. Make a clothes line, dog leash, or if you lay it on the floor an start wraping it in circles it can make a cool door mat.
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In reply to: jt512 wrote: In reply to: Then, at the other end of the spectrum, is you. Failed your pinkpoint attempt on your 5.9 project, again !! , I see. Always seems to put you in a pissy mood when that happens. Keep trying. you'll get it. :wink: Hey assandhole, I am willing to bet you don't sport climb nearly as hard as jt does. And I am also pretty sure you don't boulder as hard as I do. Please call either of us out and prove us wrong. You really should because you could then post the result here on RC.com, in the unlikely event you would prevail. Hahahahahaha. Too bad we will never hear back from you, weakmo. Curt
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Jan 4, 2005, 7:12 AM
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In reply to: curt wrote: In reply to: Hahahahahaha. Too bad we will never hear back from you. Curt, did you and Jay go to the same school to learn how to be As_hole Mods. Apparently you both love dishing it out but can't take it yourselves. I guess you guys were absent from that class. :wink: Calling me out, boy that's real grownup. Trouncing you at climbing would be too easy. How about ETF's or Treasury Futures at 20 paces ? :lol: Neither Jay or I are mods here. I am sure you can't climb worth shit. If you want to discuss financial topics, including futures valuations, the total transaction cost of equity trades, including opportunity cost, market impact, bid-ask spread and commissions, let 'er rip. I co-founded an automated stock exchange designed to remove temporal illiquidity from the market, through the implementation of single price auctions. What have you done in the financial arena that really matters? Curt
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Jan 4, 2005, 7:48 AM
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Jan 4, 2005, 8:23 AM
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In reply to: curt wrote: In reply to: Neither Jay or I are mods here. I am sure you can't climb worth s---. If you want to discuss financial topics, including futures valuations, the total transaction cost of equity trades, including opportunity cost, market impact, bid-ask spread and commissions, let 'er rip. Curt Discuss ?? That's for those who don't. I'm talking about $100k each in the futures markets for 6 months. Winner take all. Doesn't the one who's challenged get to choose the weapons :wink: Or, something harder ? Let's see, How about who can go the longest without being a jerk to those who are legitimately and courteously trying trade information on this site. I don't think you could win that one ! As far as you and jay not being mods. I coulda swore you were since you spend so much time bashing noobies on this site. :evil: An interesting thread allright, from ropes to finance to who is or who isn't a jerk. Your observation and comparison, regarding who can "legitimately and courteously" trade information here is flawed, however, since one must actually have some climbing information or knowledge to exchange, and in that regard, you do not. Also, the "noobies" who get bashed here, like yourself, richly deserve the treatment. Please be sure to report back here on your next 5.4 toprope success. Really, we are all eagerly waiting to hear about it. Curt
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Jan 4, 2005, 8:38 AM
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Ok... so he should buy a new rope and invest in nylon? Or did I miss something?
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Now is the Dow Jones or my mutual fund valuated on the age of the rope I use? The original question was lost in the spew of the spray lords on commision. Is there not Pm for this banter that no one gets or needs. Back to the question, climb every week replace your rope annually climb every other week replace your rope bi-annually climb ocasionally replace your rope every three years.
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In reply to: Discuss ?? That's for those who don't. I'm talking about $100k each in the futures markets for 6 months. Winner take all. Doesn't the one who's challenged get to choose the weapons :wink: Nice choice of weapons. You are aware, I assume, that your challenger co-founded a stock exchange. Good luck. -Jay
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Jan 4, 2005, 7:13 PM
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Use the rope to make a Bachar ladder. Then get strong.
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Jan 27, 2005, 2:39 AM
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neither jay nor curt could hold the wheel barrow that carries my ballz, in fact, curt hurt his geriatric old spine trying
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In reply to: neither jay nor curt could hold the wheel barrow that carries my ballz, in fact, curt hurt his geriatric old spine trying That was your BS in the wheel-barrow and it did weigh a ton. :lol: My back is still killing me. Curt
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I'd lead climb on that rope, my choice. I'd certainly use it for Top Roping. And I buy a new rope every year because they are so cheap. david yount.
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I have two ropes that were stored for 10 years and use them almost every weekend. You have to keep in mind that to protect their own a$$e$, when companies are determining the "recommended" life span of a product, it is normally the half-life that they will establish as the life expectancy. This gives them a huge safety margin from law suites. So if they 10 years, it's more then likely 20. These ropes of mine are 9ml. I top rope with them, and use them both leading on ice. I have other (new) ropes, but certainly do not worry about using these as I do. it is nice to have an old rope of 2 for top roping, it save the wear and tear on your lead rope(s) my 2 cents
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In reply to: In reply to: curt wrote: In reply to: Hahahahahaha. Too bad we will never hear back from you. Curt, did you and Jay go to the same school to learn how to be As_hole Mods. Apparently you both love dishing it out but can't take it yourselves. I guess you guys were absent from that class. :wink: Calling me out, boy that's real grownup. Trouncing you at climbing would be too easy. How about ETF's or Treasury Futures at 20 paces ? :lol: Neither Jay or I are mods here. I am sure you can't climb worth s---. If you want to discuss financial topics, including futures valuations, the total transaction cost of equity trades, including opportunity cost, market impact, bid-ask spread and commissions, let 'er rip. I co-founded an automated stock exchange designed to remove temporal illiquidity from the market, through the implementation of single price auctions. What have you done in the financial arena that really matters? Curt HEAVY SHIT WE GOT HERE! I love it long time.
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In reply to: In reply to: neither jay nor curt could hold the wheel barrow that carries my ballz, in fact, curt hurt his geriatric old spine trying That was your BS in the wheel-barrow and it did weigh a ton. :lol: My back is still killing me. Curt I laugh long time when I read this HaHA HA ha!!!!
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In reply to: I co-founded an automated stock exchange designed to remove temporal illiquidity from the market, through the implementation of single price auctions. What have you done in the financial arena that really matters? Curt You have got to be kidding. You do all that and climb to. Oh I mean used to climb. With 7000+ post you probably don't find much time away from the computer anymore. Where do we call you out to exactly
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