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Partner gunksgoer


Feb 17, 2005, 2:09 PM
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i made a pair for myself, and only screwed around in them before i got a pair of mistys for christmas. i plan on getting into aid, but as of now i only have a few short pitches under my belt. while playing around with my tied pair, i noticed they were great except for the loops sag. i guess duct tape may fix this, but for anything other then practice i think sewn ones are better. i also prefer the ladder style aiders to the alternating step ones, and i dont know of a way to tie them. but, the aiders u posted look fine...they arnt life and death anyways at the bigginer level, so just about anything will work.


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Good Job. First place I learned about tieing these were from Rockcraft by RR himself. Great books he wrote, especially about style and ethics.

Flat webbing is stiffer and I used ones like that on a few walls many years ago.

In the early 90's I tied my own aiders out of very light 9/16" tubular webbing for a 1 day ascent of the Salathe. I stuck straws from the Yos lodge inside the webbing to help stiffen them, and wrapped duct tape too. I made these becasue on the Nose I had used some extremely light Yates ones they made in those days. The problem with them is that they were so short that every intial step into the damn things was a high step. good if you are going fast, bad for middle aged guys.

Remember, its not how you look but what you do with what you have.
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I have a pair of 5 step myself-
Duct tape for stiffener sound good?
If I do stiffen them, how wide a step would people recommend?
I think duct tape alone is a little too wimpy as a stiffener. What I found works pretty good is the plastic banding that they use to strap stuff down to palettes. If you are tying or sewing your own aiders you can slide the pieces down the inside of the webbing as you make each step (providing you are using tubular of course). If you are just trying to stiffen an existing set, you can tape them to the step with duct tape if you want, I found a roll of really wide friction tape, sort of like sport tape but more durable worked pretty good on a floppy old set of aiders I revived.
I like the steps about 8" wide, seems to work for me.


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"They don't have stiffeners to hold the steps open, but that will help them pack down smaller."

I made something similar to this and wrapped the steps with electrical tape. Works ok I guess. I can at least look down for the different shade of color and know where the step is. I suppose you could always buy cheap, flexible, plumbing rubber tubes from the hardware store and cut them down to size.


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trisgo wrote:
"They don't have stiffeners to hold the steps open, but that will help them pack down smaller."

I made something similar to this and wrapped the steps with electrical tape. Works ok I guess. I can at least look down for the different shade of color and know where the step is. I suppose you could always buy cheap, flexible, plumbing rubber tubes from the hardware store and cut them down to size.
Thank you! We've all been breathlessly awaiting your response for the last 6 and a half years.

Dude, really, check the date of the post you're replying to first.


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marc801 wrote:
trisgo wrote:
"They don't have stiffeners to hold the steps open, but that will help them pack down smaller."

I made something similar to this and wrapped the steps with electrical tape. Works ok I guess. I can at least look down for the different shade of color and know where the step is. I suppose you could always buy cheap, flexible, plumbing rubber tubes from the hardware store and cut them down to size.
Thank you! We've all been breathlessly awaiting your response for the last 6 and a half years.

Dude, really, check the date of the post you're replying to first.

Since the thread is already revived, I tied a pair of ladder aiders with a spreader bar and they are really slick. In terms of ease of use, I would say they are somewhere between commercial etriers and commerical ladders. They are worlds better than homemade etriers.


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Lol, I try to throw a nugget of knowledge out there every now and then. Relax guy, if im reading it, I imagine others stumble across it as well from time to time.


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Nice job. I used my home-made's for years until they got so beat up my friends took up a collection and bought me some real ones.

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