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lambone
Feb 10, 2005, 12:45 AM
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sorry iceisnice, you just chose Ouray as your first example about this alpine thread...so I was a bit confused.
good luck on your climb, i think you can definately call that one "Alpine." :wink:
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lambone
Feb 10, 2005, 12:48 AM
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reno
Feb 10, 2005, 1:06 AM
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In reply to: sorry iceisnice, you just chose Ouray as your first example about this alpine thread...so I was a bit confused.
I don't think he intened to do that. It seemed to me that these thoughts came to him after a day in the ice park... kinda like a free-association-train-of-thought thing.
And I think you were confused. I also think you were a bit harsh.
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lambone
Feb 10, 2005, 1:18 AM
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yeah...well, thi is the Alpin Forum...not the sport climbin forum. Things should be a little harsher around here. We need some falling rocks and ice, some blowing sleet and some bitching at eachother to livin things up a bit. don't get your all panties in a bunch.
Seriously though, is not Ouray the ice equivilant of the Gym? So one would expect a similar mentality to gym climbers...plus this is colorado we are talking about here... :twisted:
I think advancment in equipment sometimes is overated, but you have to edmit, certain technologies like ultralight, warm and strong materials have impoved alpine climbing. I mean, unless you like to carry a really heavy and uncomfortable pack when climbing hard stuff...
cheers
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iceisnice
Feb 10, 2005, 1:44 AM
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reno, partly right. there were a couple of days at the ice park that got me thinking. the other part was seeing so many threads in the "Alpine and Ice" forum about gear and nothing mentioning motivation/drive/ambition etc. I too have some of lightest, most durable gear out there, but gear is gear. I love to hear what drives people. Its much more fascinating to talk about the soul than gear. And I'm fairly certain that most of us spend our lives pursing this activety (i hate calling is a "sport") for reasons greater than the fact that it is just fun.
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lambone
Feb 10, 2005, 2:21 AM
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there are alot of threads on this web site about "Why we climb" also...one called "Why we do what we do..." has been on the front page all day.
I don't read them because for me it's personal, and I haven't really figured out why I do it. Other then it's fun, it makes me happy, and when I get home life feels different, better.
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takeme
Feb 10, 2005, 8:54 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Must you always make such an ass of yourself? blow me
I'll take that as a yes...sorry I asked.
Next question: any chance you'll be developing some rudimentary reading comprehension skills?
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neurostar
Feb 11, 2005, 2:31 AM
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In reply to: reno, partly right. there were a couple of days at the ice park that got me thinking. the other part was seeing so many threads in the "Alpine and Ice" forum about gear and nothing mentioning motivation/drive/ambition etc. I too have some of lightest, most durable gear out there, but gear is gear. I love to hear what drives people. Its much more fascinating to talk about the soul than gear. And I'm fairly certain that most of us spend our lives pursing this activety (i hate calling is a "sport") for reasons greater than the fact that it is just fun.
It's much easier to have an objective discussion about gear than it is to have a philosophical discussion about feelings and climbing.
Plus, one's feelings about climbing are much more personal and (in my case) much harder to articulate.
Just my two cents....
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crag
Feb 12, 2005, 2:30 PM
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In reply to: well, this is actually generating some better conversations that i thought it would. i'm enjoying the input (yes, even from the ones i disagree with, hehe). to answer a question put forth earlier....yes,.
After a successful summit on a moderately technical alpine route all I could say to myself after reaching the trail head back down at the base of the Mtn "was damn should have done that in better style." I was slow by my standards, lowly as the are.
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adamwvt
Feb 12, 2005, 3:34 PM
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New tools this year. I'm not necisarily climbing better, but with more confidence.
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