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granite_puller
Dec 22, 2006, 8:51 PM
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I just got my first dslr ( a cannon digi rebel) this summer. I shot it with the stock 18-55 lens it comes with and it worked fine until the cheesy plastic part of the lens broke. I want to upgrade lenses, but I need some suggestions on what people think is the best choice for an all around lens that will be used mostly to shoot bouldering shots. I am also on a budget, so advice on good deals (read: the cheeper the better) would also be welcome. Thanks a lot.
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climbsomething
Dec 22, 2006, 9:23 PM
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I don't shoot Canon so I can't help you technically, but in general, you can get deals at pawn/consignment shops. It helps to know what you're looking for when you go in, unless perhaps it's a camera-specific consignment shop.
Just beware of getting a "hot" (stolen) lens. Sorry, cop reporter in me...
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thomasribiere
Dec 22, 2006, 9:42 PM
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Broken after 6 months!!! I would hate that! Are digital cameras usually that "cheap"? My old film Minolta (well, just 10 yrs) went through many incidents and more important comotions on the lens (hopefully the UV filter worked as a bumper - broken but saving teh whoel lens!) but I can still rely it!
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troutboy
Dec 22, 2006, 9:43 PM
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granite_puller wrote: I just got my first dslr ( a cannon digi rebel) this summer. I shot it with the stock 18-55 lens it comes with and it worked fine until the cheesy plastic part of the lens broke. I want to upgrade lenses, but I need some suggestions on what people think is the best choice for an all around lens that will be used mostly to shoot bouldering shots. I am also on a budget, so advice on good deals (read: the cheeper the better) would also be welcome. Thanks a lot.
Can't help you on the advice part, but if you give KEH camera a call they will help you and can provide excellent prices on quality used stuff. I've used them numerous times with exceptional results. Internet reviews overwhelmingly positive.
TS
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uptick
Dec 22, 2006, 9:53 PM
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kenrockwell.com has some good info.
Most of the new lenses (primarily the kit lenses) are less expensive to be price competitive.
May be better off finding an older, better built lens someone else is upgrading from.
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zuegma
Dec 22, 2006, 9:57 PM
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Have the same camera and love it. here is a website which reviews various canon camera lenses http://bobatkins.com/photography/digital/10d300dlenses.html For bouldering i would recommend either the 24-85mm or 28-105 mm. pretty much anything with a wide angle of coverage a little bit of zoom should be adequate for bouldering. When you buy a new lens i would recommend using B&Hphotovideo.com they have great prices and ship really fast.
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philbox
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Dec 22, 2006, 11:05 PM
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I reckon a 10 to 22mm lense is fantastic for climbing shots and in fact bouldering would be one area of climbing that would benefit from shooting with a lense this wide.
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maldaly
Dec 22, 2006, 11:29 PM
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I'm with philboxhere. The more I shoot my tele's, the more I like my W I D E angle lens for climbing shots. Don't shoot Canon so I can't offer specifics but I'm sure that you'll get good info from the Ken Rockwell site. I love my 12-24 Nikon Zoom. Don't know if Canon offers a zoom on the range but check it out. Don't skimp on the wide end of the range. I shoot way more at 12mm than I do at 18 or 24.
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melekzek
Dec 22, 2006, 11:42 PM
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keep in mind that there is rebate on some canon lenses [link]
fredmiranda has some ratings on the lenses [link]
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Masterblaster
Jan 16, 2007, 5:47 AM
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try to find the Tamron 17-35mm ultra wide made for canon...they stopped making it i think but if you can find one they are going cheap and it is a high quality lens worth the money. on a 1.6x sensor it will be the equivalent of around a 28mm but still a good perspective for bouldering shots.
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pico23
Jan 16, 2007, 7:19 AM
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Masterblaster wrote: try to find the Tamron 17-35mm ultra wide made for canon...they stopped making it i think but if you can find one they are going cheap and it is a high quality lens worth the money. on a 1.6x sensor it will be the equivalent of around a 28mm but still a good perspective for bouldering shots.
Bouldering, definintely a digital specific wide angle. However, you noted the budget thing.
The 12-24 nikon and pentax are $700 lenses. I bit pricey but stellar (as is the Tokina but at $500). I assume the Canon is in that range if they make one.
The tamron is a good idea, so is a Tokina 19-35 f3.5-4.5. This is a really good lens and the flare control is amazing for a wide, let alone a zoom. Tokina made them for almost every company that has the same 19-35 f3.5-4.5 so if you find it in vivitar or tamron or phoenix, it's a tokina lens.
Also, Tokina made a nice 17mm prime which was about $400 new. Not sure how good it was though. I think it was decent, just don't remember the dirty about it.
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blondgecko
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Jan 16, 2007, 8:01 AM
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I've heard good things about the Sigma 10-20.
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neuroshock
Jan 16, 2007, 8:07 AM
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pico23 wrote: Bouldering, definintely a digital specific wide angle. However, you noted the budget thing. The 12-24 nikon and pentax are $700 lenses. I bit pricey but stellar (as is the Tokina but at $500). I assume the Canon is in that range if they make one.
for cropped sensors, Canon makes the EF-S mount (which'll work on the digi-Rebel) 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 for $690 ($675 with the current rebate factored in).
for bouldering it'd be great! i typically use my 16-35mm f/2.8 on my 30D (1.6x crop) at the 16mm end and sometimes wish for even wider.
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melekzek
Jan 16, 2007, 9:22 AM
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neuroshock wrote: with the current rebate factored in
canon fall rebate deadline is passed (15 Oct-13 Jan)
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hrtmnstrfr
Jan 16, 2007, 1:54 PM
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I would like to echo this point, I had the 17-40 and found it wasn't wide enough. I now have the 10-22 and pretty much shoot at 10 all the time. Another thing I should mention is the 10-22 is an amazing lens, it is sharp and has great contrast.
(This post was edited by hrtmnstrfr on Jan 16, 2007, 1:55 PM)
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svilnit
Jan 16, 2007, 2:15 PM
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I'm using an 18-200mm VR Nikon lens that is fantastic. No complaints so far, I get the best of both worlds.
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Paul_Y
Jan 16, 2007, 10:24 PM
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Granite puller, how did you break your lens?
Paul
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maldaly
Jan 16, 2007, 11:12 PM
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granite_puller, I didn't see anyone mention it here but you need to be absolutely sure that an old lens is completely compatible with your dslr body. The technology is moving so fast that many times 2 year old lenses can't take advantage of all the new features added into the new bodies, even though the mounts may work. Check auto focus, flash meter and light meter compatibility. Usually there is a good chart of that kind of stuff on the mfgr website.. If you're shooting Nikon the kenrockwell site has a pretty clear explaination of this.
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pico23
Jan 16, 2007, 11:39 PM
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hrtmnstrfr wrote: I would like to echo this point, I had the 17-40 and found it wasn't wide enough. I now have the 10-22 and pretty much shoot at 10 all the time. Another thing I should mention is the 10-22 is an amazing lens, it is sharp and has great contrast.
If the 10-22 is on the OP's price range consider the 12-24 tokina as option #1. Optically, it and the Nikon 12-24 are the two best digital wides based on numerous mag reviews and tons of user reviews.
The Tokina is every bit as good as the Nikon for $200-300 less.
Flare control is superb and so is distortion and contrast.
I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this, I'm getting the 12-24 tokina/pentax in the Pentax version since Tokina doesn't make there's in a Pentax mount (same lens, the Pentax just cost me $250 more).
Now, when I'm getting it is altogether a different issue. The well is dry for now.
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TeeVee
Jan 17, 2007, 5:58 PM
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For Wide, EF-S 10-22 is the lens to get. For all around sharpness and contrast, EF-S 17-55IS USM is superb, outperforming all 'L' lenses of comparable focal length (because it's EF-S, it would be an L lens if it was EF)
Dustin.
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dbrayack
Jan 17, 2007, 6:05 PM
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Get a wide angle zoom, 12-24mm would be ideal, but is 500 bucks. If you can get something under 20 that would be perfect.
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