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crow
Feb 20, 2004, 5:27 AM
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So I've decided its time to start aid climbing. My question is about gear... I know what a good starter is for trad, but just don't know exactly how much I should pour into gear for aid. Also, who makes the best aiders and how many is common? I've got a rack of cams from .3 BD-about #4 BD will have two sets of stoppers soon and a set of micro stoppers. I live about a 4 hour drive to the Valley so I plan to start practicing there. So what kind of extra gear do I need for those valley Aid routes? Cam hooks? Sky Hooks? More micros? A little advice is needed. Thanks Guys
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epic_ed
Feb 20, 2004, 5:39 AM
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epic_ed moved this thread from General to Aid Climbing.
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bigwalling
Feb 20, 2004, 6:27 AM
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Well, he's what I'd carry for starters:
Hooks
-2 pointed cliff hanger
-2 pointed grappling
-2 pointed talons
-2 ea reg and large cam hooks
Nuts
-Brass Hb offset nuts
Cams
-black alien to red alien (5 cams)
-set of alien hybrids
Nailing Stuff
This stuff should never be used on clean routes! But there are many valley practice routes that have some nailing. Ask copperhead, he put togather a list and could give you some good tips.
-2 beaks
-4 blades #2-5
-5 arrows #1-5
-1 ea 1/2", 5/8" angles
-Hammer
-Some heads
-blunt chisel
Other Stuff
-Yates Wall ladders are nice but really anything will work
-Hand tied daisy chains
-Doulble gear sling helps
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skiclimb
Feb 20, 2004, 7:05 AM
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Only thing I'd add is Yates adjustable daisies...not bad to learn on reg daisys though I guess...naw just get the adjustables.
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maculated
Feb 20, 2004, 8:00 AM
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Where oh were can I get hybrids . . . : (
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ricardol
Feb 20, 2004, 9:36 AM
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In reply to: Where oh were can I get hybrids . . . : (
are they still not making those suckers?
*sigh* -- i guess i better treat mine extra nice ... have you tried calling every one in the phone book? -- (i mean every online retailer of climbing gear) ..
back in august i was able to cobble together a full set by doing that ..
perhaps shoreline can still order them for you?
-- ricardo
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mrhardgrit
Feb 20, 2004, 12:41 PM
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Ahhh.... I understand your pain with the hybrid aliens! I am desperately seeking some as well! I have been told that the waiting list is 3-4 months. They're like gold dust!
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tradclimbinfool
Feb 20, 2004, 1:22 PM
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I really like my Misty Mountain aiders. They're the ladder style so they always hang straight and open. This makes it really easy to get your feet in as you move up. They also have these elastic thingies on the two steps you use for jugging which keep the aiders attached to your feet even if you unweight them--very handy!
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bigwalling
Feb 20, 2004, 3:04 PM
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Man, I feel for you people without hybrids. I grabbed 2 sets a while back right when they started to get hard to find. They really make stuff easier if you can find them.
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maculated
Feb 20, 2004, 5:15 PM
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I guess it is so bad that a friend of mine that works at Wilsons in Bishop said that they are no longer going to even CARRY Aliens.
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holdplease2
Feb 20, 2004, 5:25 PM
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I think the boys at CCH may have run some hybreds...a particular gear shop has some sets coming in...of course they are all spoken for.
I will let you know if they actually arrive.
The wait may soon be over!
-Kate.
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