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glowering
Feb 17, 2005, 10:44 PM
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Searched and couldn't find meaning or origin.
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glyrocks
Feb 17, 2005, 10:46 PM
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Visual Basic
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neuroshock
Feb 17, 2005, 11:00 PM
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same goes for climbing. V-Basic is usually anything under V0- and is often the descent off of a boulder post-topout.
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jw11733
Feb 17, 2005, 11:09 PM
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In reply to: V-Basic is usually anything under V0- and is often the descent off of a boulder post-topout. WHAT? I thought it stood for Very Badass. This is a serious blow to my self-seteem.
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no_grain
Feb 17, 2005, 11:10 PM
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Victoria Bitters
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kaczoron
Feb 17, 2005, 11:14 PM
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In reply to: Victoria Bitters The Very Best or vomit beer depends on your taste...
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phatcat
Feb 17, 2005, 11:44 PM
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vagina baleen. ...try to avoid it....
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climbsomething
Feb 17, 2005, 11:50 PM
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Does anybody know if the VB "rating" was part of Sherman's original scheme? Or the V0- and V0+, for that matter? Did it just go V0-V1-etc?
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livingtheedge
Feb 18, 2005, 1:40 AM
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Im sure that if Sherman foresaw how the rating system was going to turn out he never would have created it. The rating systems are ass and do nothing but over-inflate heads.
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In reply to: Does anybody know if the VB "rating" was part of Sherman's original scheme? Or the V0- and V0+, for that matter? Did it just go V0-V1-etc? I think that the credit for the "VB" rating might go to Mick Ryan of RockFax. The first I saw of it was in the Bishop guides they put out. I don't know for sure, but that is my uneducated guess... please correct me if I am wrong...
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glowering
Feb 18, 2005, 2:24 PM
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Basic is what I was guessing, thanks for confirming it.
In reply to: The rating systems are ass and do nothing but over-inflate heads. Most people use ratings so they can pick out a climb that is hopefully challenging but possible for them. Without ratings you'd waste a lot of your limited climbing time on climbs that you can't do or are too easy.
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sandbag
Feb 21, 2005, 6:32 AM
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Ill presume it goes to the Gill ratings when JG had rated things B1 B2 B3 just a random guess.
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climbsomething
Feb 21, 2005, 6:56 AM
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In reply to: Im sure that if Sherman foresaw how the rating system was going to turn out he never would have created it. The rating systems are ass and do nothing but over-inflate heads. He's admitted as much several times.
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yak
Feb 21, 2005, 7:54 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Victoria Bitters The Very Best or vomit beer depends on your taste... Vitamin B
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rjavery10
Feb 21, 2005, 8:09 AM
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According to all of the charts I have seen comparing the V-scale to YDS, I gather that VB is roughly close to anything 5.9 and below. Although, the rating systems can't really be that closely related and is partly why we have different rating systems in the first place. Vbeasy.
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rockfax
Mar 5, 2005, 1:21 AM
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Yip I added VB to the bottom of the V-scale, there are of course VB+'s and VB-'s now. What does it stand for? Vertical Brain. It also has a color-code in the soon to be published Rockfax guide to Bishop Bouldering.....that color be GREEN. Also here is a free guide to VB circuits at the Happy Boulders. http://www.rockfax.com/publications/miniguides/item.php?id=25 Mick
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maculated
Mar 5, 2005, 1:26 AM
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Oh come on, Mick. "Vertical Brain?" I figured the logical conclusion was "beginner." Man, some of the answers on this question show the error of making uneducated guesses.
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snaffel
Mar 5, 2005, 2:44 AM
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well we have vb's but for us its a "victory bowl" your buddy smokes you out with after a redpoint or onsight. Which is always better than the db that you get after a spanking on a route. :wink:
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dingus
Mar 5, 2005, 2:47 AM
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It stands for Verile Bastard of course. Which is one step below Magnificent Bastard. DMT
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mungeclimber
Mar 5, 2005, 7:24 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Does anybody know if the VB "rating" was part of Sherman's original scheme? Or the V0- and V0+, for that matter? Did it just go V0-V1-etc? don't know, but according to Sherman his original idea for V0 back-in-the-day was Center El Murray on Mushroom Boulder in Hueco Tanks -- which stands today as a standard for V6. i'm hoping that sub-"V0" had some rating besides "easy stuff not worth a rating" LOL
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mungeclimber
Mar 5, 2005, 7:32 AM
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V0- = 5.8 in Stone Crusade, John Sherman's Book, published in 1994, a mere 3 years after publishing the Hueco guide (which btw, was combined authorship with Mike Head, James Crump, and Dave Head). I think that Verm was not quite tired of the system they had developed to that point. When did Verm first publicly debase his own system?
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mungeclimber
Mar 5, 2005, 7:35 AM
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In reply to: Although, the rating systems can't really be that closely related and is partly why we have different rating systems in the first place. quite simply stated, that's a load of horseshit. Check out Verm's guide and how he describes what can go into a V rating, then look at the modern development of the YDS system and what it factors in. All systems that factor in, unless defined otherwise, power, technique and endurance are comparable.
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hobo_joe
Apr 5, 2005, 1:06 AM
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VB is just some crazy code for confidence booster after eating it on the frustrating V5 that you just can't get.
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