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labrat0065
Feb 28, 2005, 6:59 PM
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for thosee of us that like to get their knot untied after tehy whipp and choose nt to tie in woith the figure of eight follow through, which is a better knot? i learned to to tie and have tied in all my life with a double bowline, however recently ive known some people and heard some buzz aobut the bowline follow through. so i was wondering which is the better knot? or is it just a matter of preferance?
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farva
Mar 4, 2005, 4:34 AM
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My old climbing partner used the retraced bowline for tie in. He claimed it was easier to untie after whipping. I just stick with the good old figure 8 follow thru. Not to hijack your thread, I think that it is also important to always finish a knot without stopping once you have started. A friend of mine started a figure 8 follow thru, got distracted before doing the follow thru part & wound up climbing to the anchors on a hard route with just 3' of cord feed thru his harness. Fortunately he noticed this at the anchors before being lowered.
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oldfart
Mar 4, 2005, 4:48 AM
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Prepare yourself. 50 replies follow on why you'll be killed instantly if you tie in with anything other than the 8.
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republiclimber
Mar 4, 2005, 5:35 AM
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one time i was climbing with this guy, Jim, and he started to tie in with an overhand and all of a sudden this big hairy guy walked up and shot him....before Jim even got the change to touch the rock!
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neuroshock
Mar 4, 2005, 5:42 AM
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how about this:
sticking with the bowline (forget for the moment that the figure-8 exists), are there any differences in safety between:
- double bowline w/ fisherman's backup (fisherman tied on the loop formed)
- double bowline w/ fisherman's backup (follow tail back up and backup knot above the bowline)
- double bowline with bowline backup
- retraced bowline
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mr8615
Mar 4, 2005, 5:42 AM
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If you scroll the whole way down, there are 5 other threads with a version of this question and resulting discussion, check 'em out!
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pushsendnorcal
Mar 4, 2005, 5:43 AM
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I guess no one is smart here
double retraced bowline, 140% stronger than a figure 8 with 70 less damage to the rope.
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ctardi
Mar 4, 2005, 3:08 PM
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In reply to: I guess no one is smart here double retraced bowline, 140% stronger than a figure 8 with 70 less damage to the rope.
You will be instantly killed if you know that statistic and use it to your advantage.
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