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sherpa79
Dec 15, 2004, 5:57 PM
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New to the forum so if this has already been covered please re-direct me. I'm thinking of buying some rockempire robots. I've used their metolius "counterparts" and liked them well enough. Price is a big issue for me. I've read a lot of good reviews of the robots, but I'm looking for some input from people who have used the robots and have found flaws. Weight, wires, handling, sizing, walking, etc. Here's your chance to vent if you hate 'em. I'm primarily a limestone and sandstone climber.
Thanks for any input!
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sed
Dec 15, 2004, 6:13 PM
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i bought the pulsar #7 recently and have used it a couple times. It is light and was very inexpensive. one draw back i have found is that when placing it the trigger cables can slide through the finger bar and hold the cams in a sideways or backwards orientation. this can make placing it frustrating although once placed it is fine.
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tyify
Dec 15, 2004, 6:48 PM
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The bigger sizes walk! The triggers are very incosistent. But if you can get past those big flaws they work great!
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sherpa79
Dec 15, 2004, 7:28 PM
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" one draw back i have found is that when placing it the trigger cables can slide through the finger bar and hold the cams in a sideways or backwards orientation. "
Thanks for the response Sed, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by "sideways" or "backwards". Do you mean that when the lobes make contact with the rock (after the triger is pulled and cam inserted), the trigger cables slide through the finger bar? Or does this mean something else?
thanks
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grinspoon
Dec 15, 2004, 7:53 PM
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I have sizes 1-5. The big sizes tend to walk, use a longer runner (isn't too big of an issue though) and there's gaps in the sizes. I bought them because they were cheap and I've used them all summer. Not a bad cam if your poor, but you'll probably end up getting better cams down the road. If you need them now, buy them.
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tchamber
Dec 15, 2004, 8:00 PM
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check out www.tradgirl.com in the FAQ section on that site they have a great set of discussions about what cams to buy and why.
The short answer, I'd highly recommend paying the extra money for camalots... but check out what they have to say, I think they talk about empire cams specifically.
You might also check out the gear review section of this site.
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tchamber
Dec 15, 2004, 8:07 PM
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also, try searching "robot" in the forum seach bar. I just got a ton of threads on Rock Empire robots... the search bar seems to work best if you only use one word... go figure...
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sixleggedinsect
Dec 22, 2004, 6:35 AM
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In reply to: I've read a lot of good reviews of the robots, but I'm looking for some input from people who have used the robots and have found flaws.
i think they are as*-ugly.
but if you are in the market for a u-stem cam im of the opinion they're as good as any. last year i would have told you to drop the extra bucks on a trango flexcam upgrade, but now those are pricier with the redesign.
i started with robots way back, minus the largest sizes. now i have the money to buy BD if i want it, but i dont think it makes that much of a difference.
this assumes the robot is the robot i remember. maybe hudy has upgraded and they're an even better deal.
anthony
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cgailey
Dec 22, 2004, 7:22 AM
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They are cams and they do the job, but if you could wait a little longer to get power cams, you should. Not that the robots are a bad cam, they just are not as refined as the metolius and the bigger sizes suck. They are good to cheaply pad a rack with, but you might be a little disappointed.
Oh, and do a search... :deadhorse:
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tallnik
Dec 22, 2004, 9:49 AM
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Hudy sport makes 4, yes four, different types of cams including the Robots.
They also have the Pulsars, the Comets, and the Flex.
The flex look exactly like the Trango flex cams.
http://www.hudysport.com/...ID=244&nLanguageID=1
This is the czech page, I have yet to find an english one.
Maybe you can find another type to tailor to your needs. Personally, I'm looking forward to owning the flexes
Cheers,
Nik
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solo
Dec 22, 2004, 11:10 AM
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Try www.rockempire.com
I own Rockempire Flexes and also use my friend's Robots and they are both O.K. Not the best cam out there, but I have yet to try a route where type of cam would be a limiting factor.
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irockclimbtoo
Dec 22, 2004, 1:13 PM
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tallnik
Dec 23, 2004, 5:29 PM
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In reply to: Try www.rockempire.com
Been there before and the only have info on the robots and pulsars....
I want the flexes :lol:
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gunksgoer
Dec 23, 2004, 6:07 PM
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i know they are a bit more $, but u might wanna check out the dmm cams or forged friends
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aeray
Dec 23, 2004, 11:01 PM
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I climber extensivly on them in australia (Polish friends rack) and I have no complaints. I climb on bd now, because I inherited a big set. Rock Empire is just fine.
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johnhenry
Dec 23, 2004, 11:25 PM
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I own most types of cams, but I really like the units from Hudy Sports.
I much perfer the single stem units (sold previously as Trango's flex cam) to the U-stem ones. You used to be able to buy these cams for around $22 retail, but it seems that Trango may have gotten some exclusive.
I saw those cams advertised on the Czech page linked above. Does anyone know of a cheaper source in the states (or in Asia)?
For desert or wall climbing, often the best cam is the one still left on your rack...
Cheers,
john
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lucas_timmer
Mar 3, 2005, 10:55 AM
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www.rockempire.cz, you can choose between english or czech
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ajkclay
Mar 3, 2005, 1:56 PM
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Got .25 through to 5 robots, the 4 and 5 have the potential to walk, but it's never been a problem.
A friend took a drop on the .5 (3 lobes) and it held him fine.
My camalots are smoother and have a slightly better range (more overlap between sizes) but really, the robots are very good. Get 'em.
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mr8615
Mar 3, 2005, 2:30 PM
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I have the full set of robots for sale: $175 if anyone is interested. They are great cams, but I've stepped up to smoother BDs and metolius cams. Now I need to replace some of the money I spent.
Mark
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craftedpacket
Mar 3, 2005, 2:58 PM
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You can now get the new single stem Comet cams from rockempire at rockempire.com. There are very good looking units. You can get the full set of 8 cams for 250 bucks US.
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numptyboy
Mar 3, 2005, 3:16 PM
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Try www.rockrun.com . They're selling the rock empire flex cams. Not sure if the price is as cheap as you might get in U.S.
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johnhenry
Mar 5, 2005, 3:45 AM
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Yeah. Nice tip amigo. They have stopped selling those Flex cams here under Rock Empire's name. Too bad.
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cliffmonkey2003
Mar 5, 2005, 5:35 AM
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The .75 held my 80 foot whipper, I have no complaints. I haven't experienced much walking with the robots and they seem very simple and fast to place compared to some others that I've fumbled with.
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climber_osu
Mar 5, 2005, 6:14 AM
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Good cam and sweet price. No complaints from me.
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bloquer
Mar 11, 2005, 3:11 AM
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I've used the Trangos and they worked very well, My rack is made up of BD's, but a sometimes partner has mostly Trangos and I have confidence placing them-they seem to work great.
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