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keith_b00ne


Feb 16, 2005, 1:14 PM
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Ascending a Double Rope
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Most things I look at talk about ascending a single rope or tying one end to you and ascending the other side. My question is: Say the rope is running over a tree branch and you don't want the rope to slide over the tree's bark. Can you bachman hitch both ropes and ascend them both safely? I have done this up to 10 feet high and appears to be ok.


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There are devices made for it that can take two ropes at once, but it seems like you want something a little more ad hoc, no? Any of the commonly-used cord-based friction hitches should work just fine. Sounds like you already have it handled. :)


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you might consider anchoring both ends of the rope if you don't want it to slip around the tree branch.


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Arborists ascend doubled ropes all of the time. The least complex system is to tie a cord loop using a Klemheist around both ropes and then use a double locking biner to attach to your saddle.

To ascend arbos do what's called a footlock. This is pretty hard to describe. If you're really interested google ought to lead you to a discussion.

One word of CAUTION! You MUST stay below the limb that the rope is doubled over. Stay at least five times the diameter of the limb below. Ex. 5" dia=25" below. If you get closer you risk having the doubled ropes splitting the Klemheist leading to groundfall.

For more arbo rope climbing info go to:

http://www.treebuzz.com/

Look in the Articles section for an article I wrote on SRT.


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Mar 26, 2005, 6:31 AM
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Hmm. I would use a Petzl Reverso and a Backman not or klymheist...

Have fun,

john


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If you use a Petzl Reverso on the auto-locking way you can climb double ropes with it and it isn't very expensive.($ 25, and it's great for belaying)Or if you want a better device, the Petzl Shunt.


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I've used the Bachman knot on the few occasions I've needed to go up a doubled rope. I've never had a problem with the Bachman (even on wet ropes). I like it because it's easy to loosen, easy to grab, and I can make it with gear I'm already carrying. As others have mentioned other knots around both ropes will also work.


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