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climbalon
Apr 14, 2005, 3:43 AM
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The thing that bothers me about this isn't the fact that its a pile of bullshit which some overweight, middle-age crisised men read; but that "Steve" got paid for completely and entirely ripping off another website. Now this isn't the "why dont I just copy and paste the information over and hope no one notices", or the "why dont I use this as part of my research" but in this article steve decided to find another badly written article, change a couple sentences, cut boring parts out and throw in some different analogies and submit it for money... Not only is that pathetic but its downright criminal.
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vanclimber
Apr 14, 2005, 4:52 AM
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Full Safety climbing is quite a bit easier than No Safety climbing (where you tie in on lead and drag your counterweight belayer up behind you.)
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danpayne
Apr 14, 2005, 4:59 AM
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Dear Supposed Journalist,
Wow dude, that is a very presumptious article. You obviously know very little about climbing.
Suction Cups? Are you retarded? It's garbage like this, written by idiots like you, that gets people killed, and gives climbing a bad name. Full Saftey Climbing? Someone Pulling on the Rope? You have to be kidding me.
One piece of advice for you, Stick to your run-of-the-mill "Get better abs" articles, and leave "extreme" sports to those who actually take the time to learn them.
Actual Climber,
Dan Payne
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sustainedclimber
Apr 14, 2005, 5:45 AM
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In reply to: Your footholds should be generously spaced; small steps seem more inviting but consume more energy.
sorry if someone already took this little tidbit and did a rant, but oh my god, I've never seen something so blatently wrong in my entire life. This is exactly the wrong advice to give, ESPECIALLY to beginners who don't understand that accurate footwork is one of the most important aspects of climbing. Okay, that's enough, just thought I'd share in the anger/laughter. Alright...mostly laughter. I love the public's naivete.
-Josh
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gasdr
Apr 14, 2005, 10:28 AM
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Anyone notice the date the article was written? I'm hoping this is a sad excuse of an April fool's joke and everyon'e being played. Surely, no one is THAT ignorant!!!!! Even Hollywood hasn't used suction cups!
Those damn boulders keep messing up my relaxing hike!
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clmbr121
Apr 14, 2005, 12:55 PM
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I'm not entirely convinced of the legitimacy or illegitimacy of this article. The best I can figure is that either:
A) It is a terribly researched article (its not technically plagarism, as he did not copy the other web site verbatim and pass it off as his own, but its damn near close)
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B) He wrote it as a joke, but is a dreadfully untalented writer.
I personally think that its a little of column A, a little of column B. He "stole" someone else's misinformed article, and is a rather lackluster writer. If it is supposed to be a joke, he wasn't terribly successful in writing it that way.
Either way...it just will propogate natural selection.
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wvrocks
Apr 14, 2005, 1:08 PM
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A buddy of mine used some toilet plungers to climb around the windows on
the outside of a ski lodge after a lot of beer at a staff party. Does that count as suction cups? :lol:
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wvrocks
Apr 14, 2005, 1:12 PM
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double post
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rhonius
Apr 14, 2005, 1:31 PM
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Did any one actually try to crumple a piece of newspaper with ur fingers? I got a better work out typing this post.......
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overlord
Apr 14, 2005, 1:38 PM
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In reply to: Theories on where he got his information? http://www.soyouwanna.com/...ockclimbingFULL.html Think he visited the one website and decided he could plaigiarize it for an article? -Joe Edit to make the link clicky. I thought it automagically did that. Guess not :)
he had to plagiatize that piece of crp????
would be better off if he just made some stuff up while sipping hes morning coffe.
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epic_ed
Apr 14, 2005, 6:50 PM
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I first clicked on this thread and read the article a couple of days ago. I couldn't resist the urge to fire off a letter to the author -- it wasn't pretty, and I won't repost it here. I've had a couple of days to watch this unfold and play out, and I gotta tell ya -- I think we've been had.
I'm convinced that this Steve guy has propogated the world's greatest internet troll. Someone with an ax to grind with our website, and those of us with our myopic lil views and our self-righteous attitudes. He has master-minded the crown jewel of all internet hoaxes with this article. Who would do such a thing? Who would have the time, the intelligence, the persistence, and the bullheadedness to get a stooge at one of the internet tabloids to write a "bait" article about rock climbing?
There can be only one answer to that question. It is my theory that the one and only nefarious nemesis of RC.com is behind all of these shennanigans!!! This article was written by none other than....
DrKodos!!!
We've all been had, I tell you.
Ed
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taualum23
Apr 14, 2005, 7:00 PM
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Ed,
I swear I would be inclined to agree with you, but for the fact that the article was so clearly plagarized (sp?). Kodos was/is, if nothing else, original.
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chanceboarder
Apr 14, 2005, 7:05 PM
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In reply to: Ed, I swear I would be inclined to agree with you, but for the fact that the article was so clearly plagarized (sp?). Kodos was/is, if nothing else, original. |
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clmbr121
Apr 14, 2005, 7:16 PM
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:shock:
...cue X-Files music...
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tadam2000
Apr 14, 2005, 7:56 PM
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I've gone back through this article a few times and I'm becoming pretty convinced it's legit. It's consistent with the other articles; he listed his reference sources at the end; and the writing, as bad as it is (and it really is pretty terrible, let's face it), looks like a legitimate effort and not an attempt at a hoax or satire.
I think it's bad reporting written by a hack for an audience of 30 year-old 14-year-olds.
BTW, anyone who e-mailed him get a reply yet? I haven't.
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fitzontherocks
Apr 14, 2005, 8:00 PM
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Nor I.
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gochubug
Apr 14, 2005, 11:54 PM
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In reply to: Surely, no one is THAT ignorant!!!!! Even Hollywood hasn't used suction cups! |
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gunkjunkie
Apr 15, 2005, 12:54 AM
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I hope that Steve Richer doesn't write the sex tip article for askmen.com. Otherwise there's going to be alot of confused guys out there. :lol:
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glyrocks
Apr 15, 2005, 1:21 AM
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Hah, I think a lot of us are plenty confused in that area without ol' Steve and his crazy talk.
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kman
Apr 15, 2005, 1:30 AM
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In reply to: I'm convinced that this Steve guy has propogated the world's greatest internet troll. Someone with an ax to grind with our website, and those of us with our myopic lil views and our self-righteous attitudes. He has master-minded the crown jewel of all internet hoaxes with this article. We've all been had, I tell you. Ed
Good theory Sherlock :lol:
I suppose he went out of his way to dupe all of the advertisers into advertising on the askmen site all in order to trick us.
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timstich
Apr 15, 2005, 1:30 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: OTOH, many people will consider rock climbing a sport - especially with misinformation flying aroun - not realizing how dangerous it is when taken lightly. WHO??? Who are these 'many people and why aren't they dying oin droves? I would expect to see the 'idiot dies climbing with Mom's clothesline' articles daily or some s---. But guess what? That ain't happening.
It happens now and again. Years ago some kids tried to rappel into a cave in Austin with a garden hose. But I submit that they didn't learn how to do that by reading about it. People will come up with severely dangerous ways of doing things entirely on their own and without help from poor writers.
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pomattic
Apr 15, 2005, 2:06 AM
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The link to http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/rockclimbing/rockclimbingFULL.html was provided by someone and wow... thats amazing
.. my mom hates climbing... and she knows she knows nothing bout it when i talk bout it but she could write an article more acurate then this... and english is her second language!....
alll in all i think we had a good laugh!.. very good laugh.... and a great THANKS to the author of this article keep it up.............
(cant make these links work...edited to get rid of the)
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jcr
Apr 15, 2005, 2:33 AM
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WHAT THE HELL IS THIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In reply to: Belaying: This is not really a style but rather a technique that can be used in both free climbing and aid climbing. Two climbers hook up a rope between them and climb in succession, anchoring the cable along the way. This keeps you from falling all the way to the ground.
:shock: :shock: :shock:
That CAAAN be used!!!! How about MUUUST be used!!!!
Oh, and the explanation is BAD in soooo many ways...... dont even get me started!! :?
JC
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Apr 15, 2005, 3:11 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: Surely, no one is THAT ignorant!!!!! Even Hollywood hasn't used suction cups! I'll say this again since no one seems to have read my first post. That suction cup idea is from a crazed Frenchman (I think his name was Phillipe Petite or I may have him mixed up with someone else) who used to climb up the outside of skyscrapers using suction cups! He always got arrested and enjoyed the attention. Steve just can't get the difference between aid climbing on glass and aid climbing on rock :wink:
From:
http://www.answers.com/topic/alain-robert
In reply to: In 1981, "Spider Dan" Goodwin climbed the glass of the Sears Tower and the John Hancock Center in Chicago using suction cups.
From what I remember hearing, they had a three second release on them so he had to keep moving.
Alain Robert is another famous builderist (featured in the above link) who is arrested after pretty much every climb.
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