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newtocalgary
Jul 9, 2002, 2:56 AM
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there is new vests out there climbing specific it distributes the weight evenly and can be changed from ounces to 18 pound and more its great to climb with and is better when its off
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jt512
Jul 9, 2002, 2:56 AM
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Yes, but if you're doing pushups to build strength for climbing, then you're confused.
-Jay
[ This Message was edited by: jt512 on 2002-07-08 20:55 ]
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bouldertoad
Jul 9, 2002, 3:12 AM
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If you ar egoing to add weight then use a vest or a backpack of some sort. By using ankle or wrist weights you are adding undue stress on the joint thereby weakening the joint. Any strength gains from it will be negated by the weakening fo the tendons in the joint......
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tim
Jul 9, 2002, 3:19 AM
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Use a backpack with a large water bladder or a rack of big-ass cams in it, works great, I do it all the time.
Oh wait, you meant for training?!?
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doosh
Jul 9, 2002, 4:25 AM
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I just boulder circuits with a midget on my back.
Sometimes, he whips me.
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ktwo
Jul 9, 2002, 5:27 AM
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I stuck some chains I found at the local climbing wall on a couple of biners, and carry them on my gear loops. Great for training to carry a heavy trad rack up a route!
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wildtrail
Jul 9, 2002, 5:47 AM
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That would be strength because you are focusing the weight (not all of it due to the push-up position) on specific muscle groups.
Then again, it depends. I'm a weight lifter of years. 40 pounds for push ups for a large person may be for endurance, but for a small guy it is not. I assume you are an average sized person, like most climbers, thin and relatively "cut".
Endurance would be obtained more readily by you doing your 3 or 4 sets of push-ups without the weight. Do as many as you can for each set, take at least a five minute break in between, and do it again. This will give endurance. When it comes to endurance, repetitions make the difference. Not the weight.
Think of the workd endurance. How long can you go? Don't add weight, try to lengthen the workout. If it starts to seem too easy, add a little weight.
First is Aerobic, then endurance, then strengthening. I believe this is the order of things regarding muscle developement.
Steve
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bigfatfinga
Jul 9, 2002, 1:38 PM
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Hey-
good info, just want to add something specific to climbing...as opposed to weight lifting. Most climbers, myself included, feel that strength needs to come before endurance, because "if you cant do one hard move, there is nothing to endure."
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hroldan
Jul 9, 2002, 2:59 PM
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weight helps a lot, measure how much you can take in your back. Imagine that you can do only one with 100 pounds, then calculate the 75%, thats 30 pouns , ohh wait, thats 75 pounds. Work out with that on a bar. Series of 15 not so slowly, this will get you stronger without getting your muscles too big. This kind of trainning has a name but I forgot it.
Climbing with some weight is great too. It will get you use to the weght of the carabiners.
Besides, it gets you stronger. BUT, be careful because you can injure yourself and you can climb worse.
If you are going to climb with weight use little of it and distribute it across your body because if you use only a pack on your back or a big helmet it can change the way you move.
Besides warm up and do this kind of things after you have reached some climbing level of you can injure yourself.
cimb on!
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jt512
Jul 9, 2002, 5:45 PM
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i'm 6 feet and 135 lbs
Are you serious? Don't lift weights, for heaven's sake. Just start climbing. You'll be cranking off some hard sport climbs in no time at all.
-Jay
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ergophobe
Jul 9, 2002, 7:39 PM
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"Yes, but if you're doing pushups to build strength for climbing, then you're confused."
Or a budding squeeze chimney master - go for it!
Tom
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fiend
Jul 10, 2002, 10:54 AM
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Sonnie Trotter used to do laps in his gym with weight in a backpack. At around the same time he went from being a 5.12ish (possibly better, I didn't know him that well) climber to sending his first 5.14a. Shortly after he managed to send Just Do It in Smith Rock at 5.14c
Just thought I'd share
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