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crux_clipper
Jul 9, 2002, 2:16 AM
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Personally, i find that gear loops on my harness are so much easier, because the gear is right at your side, whereas with a gear sling, i found that gear was swinging around and away from my body, out of reach.
What do you all think.....
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krustyklimber
Jul 9, 2002, 3:09 AM
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To each his/her own I guess!
My friends still make fun of me when I rack-up my draws on a sling and take off up a sport route.
I just like it, it's a generational thing I guess, the first three harnesses I had didn't even have gear loops. The first one I had didn't even buckle on, and would fall off if you untied!
Jeff
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tim
Jul 9, 2002, 3:17 AM
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Swinging leads or climbing offwidths?
Gear sling. Easier to pass, easier to flop out of the way, easier to swap.
One guy leads all the pitches, on anything but an offwidth or one-side-favored pitch?
Gear loops. Better weight distribution, easy to reach for, always know where everything is.
I really do believe it's as simple as that for trad (eg., not alpine or aid) climbs.
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clam
Jul 9, 2002, 4:33 AM
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I started using the loops and switched to the sling early on. I like how easy it is to just lfip it out of the way or bring it back into action for gear selection. I forget what it was like now to use the loops. Maybe I'll go back and try the loops again to compare. But I certainly like the sling.
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mobius
Jul 9, 2002, 4:49 AM
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Lots o friction climbs where I climb...It is super hard to use a gear sling for that as it swings in your way all the time. Good on off-withs...? I'll never know, the first and ONLY time I have done a OW was following, and it suxed major monkey ass.
Matthew~
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couloir
Jul 9, 2002, 5:16 AM
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If I can comfortably carry all the gear I need on my harness, I do. When I can't, I use a gear sling for cams, and carry everything else on my harness.
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wildtrail
Jul 9, 2002, 5:27 AM
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Depends. If I am climbing something small, the gear loops are okay. However, I hate stuff banging around on my legs.
I prefer the gear sling. Organize before the climb, then go. It is all personal preference, I guess. However, I have had worse problems with the loops than the sling. Besides, the sling can carry more and keeps stuff out of the "leg" way.
Preference only.
I choose the sling every time.
Besides, if you are in Yosemite or Zion, you need more than those loops can carry. Unless you stick to "sport" which I won't do.
Preference.
Steve
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stevematthys
Jul 9, 2002, 5:54 PM
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i dont have enough room to put all my gear on my harness, so i have to use a metolius sling, and still put some stuff on my harness
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elmosity
Jul 9, 2002, 7:21 PM
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I try and rack most stuff on a sling if I am doing a trad route but put some quickdraws/slings on front loops and large cams, shoes and cordalette on back loops. If I keep most of the protection on the sling it is easy to swap at belays and re-rack. The key is trial and error and finding out what works best for you.
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radistrad
Jul 9, 2002, 7:37 PM
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I like to rack on my gear loops. My harness has large loops and I can usually fit all of my toys on them.
If I am aiding I will use my chest harness which has massive amounts of room for gear.
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benfieldj
Jul 9, 2002, 11:20 PM
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I use loops for stoppers,hexes, shoes, water bottle, etc and keep cams and runners on a sling. Just habit but it works for me.
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crux_clipper
Jul 10, 2002, 6:34 AM
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I dont have enough room to put all my gear on my harness
good one!!
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joemor
Jul 14, 2002, 7:31 AM
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i likea combination, gear and draws on loops, cams on the sling.
joe
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bouldertoad
Jul 15, 2002, 3:34 AM
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I also like the gear sling idea. I use the metolius one with the gear loops on it so my rack does not slide around as much. I put all of my draws and belay materials there as well.
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woodse
Jul 15, 2002, 3:51 AM
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I have the multi-loop gear sling, much better, holds tons of gear and you don't fell like your harness is falling down to your ankels!
woodsE
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kevlar
Jul 15, 2002, 10:36 PM
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Gear sling for cams an all else on the gear loops...
You can use a biner clipped to the sling and through a loop on the waist to keep the sling undercontrol...but you need to experiment to get the right feel...good luck and have fun
Happy climbing...john
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camsticker
Jul 15, 2002, 11:04 PM
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Yeah you got a sweet gear sling Woodse...and you still look like PTPP
Ivan
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sparky
Jul 17, 2002, 7:39 AM
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loops are nice until you need to second something and have all the loops full before you strip the route. If the sling sit right it is nicer than gear loops, but if it is swayin and moving on you than loops are the best
www.geocities.com/climb_eldorado/
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climbingcowboy
Jul 17, 2002, 8:12 AM
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I climb with the multiple loops sling that has the one loop that comes around under your other arm, i think its metoulious. I rack small to big with my extra ovals on the separate loop. My harness has quickdraws and big gear cams 3inch and up, and my cordlette with lockers. It's seemed to work great for me.
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timpanogos
Jul 19, 2002, 6:53 AM
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I only have experience with 1 sling - my Metolius sling with 4 loops along the front, and the funky hooking, under the arm sling.
The underarm loop is great for anchor stuff that you will not need easy access to while climbing
I started slinging my nuts on the highest front sling loops and my cams on the lower ones, but found the cams often catch on the rock when stepping up - so I moved the cams to the top, nuts on 2nd, runners/binners on 3rd and 4th. Sometimes a binner on the runners will catch just right (or wrong as it were) but this seems to work well.
This sling has very good padding material, that stays where it is put - you must lift the weight of the sling to move the whole thing (as to slide everything behind you - out of the way) - it's not just an easy brush it behind you with a free hand - nice part, is if/when you do move it way behind, it stays there. I currently find my self doing this before rapping, to get everything away from the rappel device/rope.
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