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hillbillywannabe


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i searched and it didnt give me anything but back clipping, and it didnt say what that was either


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Here's my attempt to describe Z-clipping:

Z-clipping is when you are lead climbing and grab the rope from below the last clip in point and clip it into the next point. It essentially creates a Z with the rope. The rope extends up from the below to one piece of protection, then back down to another point, then up to the climber. Does that make sense?

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http://www.indoorclimbing.com/quickdraw.html

there is a paragraph with a picture. read and learn


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For those that are lazy.... (from above link)

http://www.indoorclimbing.com/...s/quickdrawZclip.gif

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Example of a "Z-Clip". The climber grabs the rope going to the belayer instead of the rope going to his harness, then pulls it up to the next quickdraw. This type of clipping could cause the gate to twist against the rope and open; and causes excessive rope drag...not to mention a red face.
....and not to mention a longer fall, when you climb higher to the next draw above that....

....it can really only happen when climbs have bolts too close together....


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as far as the back clipping goes, if the the rope feeds from outside the quickdraw carabiner towards the rock, you may have back clipped. In essentially all circumstances you want to rope to feed out from the rock. This way if you fall the rope won't nearly as likely become unclipped as opposed to the other way.


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i have never lead before, but i am looking forward to, but is z clipping a common issue? it looks like its hard to do. am i making sense?
back clipping on the other hand looks like it would be easier to do.


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not common...easy to avoid by paying attention!!


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not common...easy to avoid by paying attention!!

Not only is it easy to avoid by paying attention, it's virtually impossible on many routes. There has to be very little distance between bolts to manage to reach below the last clip and still reach up to the next bolt. I can't say I've ever actually witnessed a z-clip.


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I've only witnessed one z-clip, but it was quickly noticed by everyone around and remedied. This was on a well protected 10c/d route with a roof. There was a bolt under the roof and another a couple feet above it on the face, so it was easy to grab the wrong part of the rope. In light of this, yes, it should be very easy to avoid z-clipping, and 10 times outta 9 should never happen.


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Wierd. In over 20 years of climbing, I've never seen someone do this. Odd that we give it a name.

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aznrockclimber82


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Gotta have a name for everything....instead of "that thingy where your rope is coming from the last bolt and it kinda looks like a Z...y'know". *Gaaaaaaaasssp* Much Easier with the name...licah so: "YO NUMBNUTZ! YOUR Z-CLIPPIN FOO!" :lol:


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