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murockman
Jul 12, 2005, 2:01 AM
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what are they all for, i'm really interested in aid climbing, but i'm not going to try it until i understand what all these things do. someone help me out.
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kristoffer
Jul 12, 2005, 2:18 AM
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Im no aid expert, as a matter of a fact im just learning aid my self. Copper / aluminum heads are small peaces of… well copper or aluminum that have been swagged onto cable and are pounded into cracks and what not with a hammer. Rivets are much like bolts but instead of being expansion bolts with hangers on them there just standard machined bolts (like the kind you can get at a hard wear store) that are pounded into a hole that is a fraction of an inch smaller then the actual bolt… and daisy chains are either adjustable or standard. The standard type have many loops on them that you put your fifi hook or carbineer thru to rest on.
hope that helped
Peace
Kristoffer
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the_dude
Jul 12, 2005, 3:38 AM
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If your just getting in to aid, don't worry about heads and rivits at this point. You're mostlikely not going to be seeing these when your learning to aid on an A1. If you do see a rivit, it will make sense, If you don't have a rivit hanger you can usually substitute a wired nut to loop over the rivit. If you come across heads they will be fixed, don't worry about learning to place em yet. Daisy chains you will most definetely need. They are an intigral part of your aid setup. If you're confused as to what they are, you got some work to do before heading out to try things out. I'd suggest getting John Longs, "Big Walls" book to familiarize yourself with the aid basics. Once you get the basic system down all the other aid gadgets and rope trickery will start to make more sense to you. Hope this helps a bit. Aid climbing is a hell of a lot of fun in it's own twisted way, I hope you have fun with it!
Cheers
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karlbaba
Jul 12, 2005, 3:40 AM
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Best to get an overview somewhere through a book that will give you the big picture. You can then ask questions about the details
peace
Karl
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areuinclimber
Jul 12, 2005, 4:41 AM
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http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22175&start=5
if your getting into aid then DEVOUR these
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stymingersfink
Jul 12, 2005, 4:47 AM
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just be sure to ask PTPP for any clarification you might need, I'm sure he'd love that.
In faaact, I'll bet he'd be willing to let you haul some loads to the base of his next climb for him, maybe even show you how to set up a wall-hauler. If you were willing to contribute to the necessary supplies, heck he might even offer you the opportunity to see his prodigious postings in action.
but i digress... yes, search though, if you can navigate through PTPP's stuff coherently then be sure to let us all know the secrets you find.
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