|
off_center
Jul 13, 2005, 8:55 AM
Post #26 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 4, 2004
Posts: 100
|
I'm mostly an Apathetisist.
Anyone else feel the same way? We should all get together and . . . eh, never mind.
|
|
|
|
|
toejam
Jul 13, 2005, 9:49 AM
Post #27 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 24, 2002
Posts: 358
|
In reply to: 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord FOREVER!!!!!
Speaking for those of us who will be left behind when the rapture happens and y'all get whisked away up to heaven....could you bump up the timetable a little bit and leave us your gear? kthx
|
|
|
|
|
jcshaggy
Jul 13, 2005, 11:48 AM
Post #28 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jun 4, 2004
Posts: 340
|
I get the distinct feeling that R.C.com has been targeted by a strange group of individuals. Thanks for the laugh. One post actually said some crap about freedom of speech in their country-This is the United States of Internet.
Oh, and I drink beer and climb but not always in that order. Somedays the beer is more, and on other days the rock is more.
|
|
|
|
|
jlc325i
Jul 13, 2005, 12:07 PM
Post #29 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 2, 2004
Posts: 128
|
I'll take Santa or the Easter Bunny over god. I think religion, in time, will come to be worthless. It's only there to explain the unexplainable (and to keep medieval corrupt on top). Look at all past beliefs/religions and how they have been cycled out. What makes christianity any better than the rest; Its open-endedness and overlying lack of proof? We are our own gods, and may science lead us.
I always thought really religious people sound like heavy druggies. God helps me get up cliffs. I praise him every time i reach the top. I couldn't do anything without him.
|
|
|
|
|
bigjonnyc
Jul 13, 2005, 12:08 PM
Post #30 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Posts: 369
|
In reply to: .... to thank the lord for ensuring that good god fearin' folks such as myself, justineus and co., and pretty much the entire bible belt of the u.s...is guaranteed a life of eternal salvation, TOGETHER!...b/c i know that being in the company of these fine people and every other f'ckin boyscout who ever lived could only be construed as eternal paradise, and it is there, where we can pity and mock the scores of humans in all of history who went to hell for simply not having the option of accepting the lord jesus into their hearts
Not all boyscouts are Christians.
|
|
|
|
|
noshoesnoshirt
Jul 13, 2005, 12:19 PM
Post #32 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jul 24, 2002
Posts: 440
|
In reply to: I'm mostly an Apathetisist. Anyone else feel the same way? We should all get together and . . . eh, never mind.
Personally, I'm a Bootyist.
|
|
|
|
|
j_ung
Jul 13, 2005, 12:34 PM
Post #33 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 21, 2003
Posts: 18690
|
j_ung moved this thread from General to Community.
I'm not sure, but I doubt the word "climbing" has appeared in this thread since the first page. Non-Christians, you be civil. Christians, you be civil, too.
|
|
|
|
|
12volt_man
Jul 13, 2005, 1:36 PM
Post #35 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Feb 20, 2005
Posts: 406
|
In reply to: In reply to: Not all boyscouts are Christians. Right, but they are allowed to deny you membership or promotion if you do not believe in God.
Coming into the debate a little late but I believe j-ung is correct, the Boyscouts require a belief in God as a membership requirement or at least it is fundamental to their mission statement.
|
|
|
|
|
taualum23
Jul 13, 2005, 1:38 PM
Post #36 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Dec 13, 2002
Posts: 2370
|
In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Not all boyscouts are Christians. Right, but they are allowed to deny you membership or promotion if you do not believe in God. Coming into the debate a little late but I believe j-ung is correct, the Boyscouts require a belief in God as a membership requirement or at least it is fundamental to their mission statement.
And for my next trick, I will become thorne!
|
|
|
|
|
flipnfall
Jul 13, 2005, 2:13 PM
Post #37 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 18, 2004
Posts: 717
|
In reply to: I'm not sure, but I doubt the word "climbing" has appeared in this thread since the first page.
I said "Climbers" twice. Does that count?
In reply to: Did you know that every time you masturbate God kills a kitten?
Hmmm. I don't ever remember being taught that. Thanks for the advice. I'll stop today. I can't begin to imagine the carnage I've caused.
BTW: climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing, climbing...
*Just in case I hadn't used that word yet.
GT
|
|
|
|
|
shakylegs
Jul 13, 2005, 2:23 PM
Post #39 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Aug 20, 2001
Posts: 4774
|
In reply to: In reply to: I'm not sure, but I doubt the word "climbing" has appeared in this thread since the first page. I said "Climbers" twice. Does that count?
This is also at least the second time you've mentioned barely concealed fear/disdain of homosexuals. Care to share?
Methinks there's a glass door on that closet of yours.
|
|
|
|
|
flipnfall
Jul 13, 2005, 2:37 PM
Post #40 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: May 18, 2004
Posts: 717
|
In reply to: This is also at least the second time you've mentioned barely concealed fear/disdain of homosexuals. Care to share? Methinks there's a glass door on that closet of yours.
Dude, I don't "fear" or "disdain" homosexuals. This is the second time you've been trying to get me to say something like that. Only because you're asking me "to share," I will let you know my thoughts.
NOTE: If anyone else reads this, please know that shakylegs is asking me to post this publically, so don't freak out that I'm "pushing" my views on you. It's my responding to his request.
Shakylegs, according to orthodox Evangelical Christian doctrine, people who are homosexuals are just like everyone else. We believe that being gay is morally wrong, but we don't believe that being gay is worse than any other "sin." When I hear someone who's a homosexual say, "I can't help but be gay, it's who I am," my response is, "You are correct. You are gay and you can't help it." That's because the formal teaching of Jesus was that anyone who sins (with any kind of sin) is in bondage/slavery to that sin. They cannot help but do that sin over and over again. This is why we should have compassion on homosexuals. They are stuck being gay. If we disdain homosexuals as though they are worse than us, Jesus himself said that we won't be forgive of our sins.
Next time some so called Christian acts hatefully toward someone who's gay, let me know and I can send you the actual teachings of the New Testament to help you straighten them out. To repeat, I don't fear or disdain homosexuals. I care (and love) very much for these people and wish for them to have the same enjoyment out of life that I have found being a Christian. I won't push my views on them, but I won't neglect to share my views if people (such as yourself) are willing to listen.
Thanks for the question! :D
GT
|
|
|
|
|
petsfed
Jul 13, 2005, 4:23 PM
Post #41 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Sep 25, 2002
Posts: 8599
|
A good friend of mine is being ACTIVELY smeared by a Christian organization, and I have been accosted by "missionaries" before. In fact, the most polite group seems to be the mormons. I have no use for missionaries, and its insulting to hear that they pray for my soul. I don't want it, you're not doing me any favors asking the man upstairs to change my mind.
|
|
|
|
|
blonde_loves_bolts
Jul 13, 2005, 4:33 PM
Post #42 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Apr 7, 2005
Posts: 2287
|
In reply to: We believe that being gay is morally wrong, but we don't believe that being gay is worse than any other "sin." When I hear someone who's a homosexual say, "I can't help but be gay, it's who I am," my response is, "You are correct. You are gay and you can't help it." That's because the formal teaching of Jesus was that anyone who sins (with any kind of sin) is in bondage/slavery to that sin. They cannot help but do that sin over and over again. This is why we should have compassion on homosexuals. They are stuck being gay. If we disdain homosexuals as though they are worse than us, Jesus himself said that we won't be forgive of our sins.
Doesn't it seem like a slightly backhanded concession? That your general consensus is that they can't help their lifestyle, so pity them for their inability to rid themselves of sin? I had a friend from Texas once who had been brought up believing that it wasn't a sin to be gay, but it was a sin to have sexual relations if you are gay, because it was sex outside of marriage and gays can't get married.
For the record, regardless of how certain religious groups have hijacked a few phrases from the Bible and run with them, homosexuality is not a sin in the Bible. The word "homosexuality" didn't even exist until the mid 1830s. You have to keep in mind context when you are attempting to literally interpret the Bible. Yes, there are passages alluding to the fear of men having relations with other men. The actual origin of this fear was that it was believed that for a man to have sexual relations with another man would cause him to be sterile, which was understandably seen as a threat to a small population. Basically, as Victor Paul Furnish said, the Bible is a historical document with immeasurable value but requires thoughtful study. The more specific a passage or story is to the time and place where it was written, the less applicable it is today. A nation wouldn't decide modern day foreign policy based on 19th century politics.
While your thoughts seem well intentioned, they are a little off.
|
|
|
|
|
vivalargo
Jul 13, 2005, 4:53 PM
Post #43 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 26, 2002
Posts: 1512
|
He wrote: NOTE: If anyone else reads this, please know that shakylegs is asking me to post this publically, so don't freak out that I'm "pushing" my views on you. It's my responding to his request.
Shakylegs, according to orthodox Evangelical Christian doctrine . . .
I believe he was asking for YOUR views. Views lifted from a text, no matter how sacred, are still second-hand views.
So the question becomes, in the simpliest terms: How do YOU feel about (fill in the blank). The question is not: What do you THINK about (blank), or, can you recite something from the Bible or the Torah on this subject. What, as a separte human being, feel about (blank).
The almost certain fact that you will not reference your own views, feelings or thoughts without vectoring them off external sources is the only thing that makes this thread a trap.
JL
|
|
|
|
|
overlord
Jul 13, 2005, 5:07 PM
Post #44 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Mar 25, 2002
Posts: 14120
|
In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: Not all boyscouts are Christians. Right, but they are allowed to deny you membership or promotion if you do not believe in God. Coming into the debate a little late but I believe j-ung is correct, the Boyscouts require a belief in God as a membership requirement or at least it is fundamental to their mission statement.
thankfully its not like that here. here the national scout organization thats a part of wolrd organization of scout movements doesnt require yo to be religious and is open to all religions.
the catholic scouts have their own organization and that is a part of "world organization of women guides" or something like that. they are not members of WOSM.
|
|
|
|
|
iltripp
Jul 13, 2005, 5:21 PM
Post #45 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 6, 2003
Posts: 1607
|
In reply to: I like barbequed pork. I do no care all that much for pork chops. DMT
I think you're full of it, stupid N00b. :wink: You haven't even specified what kind of barbequed pork you like, which clearly shows you are not a very knowledgable barbeque-er.
Since you're a west coaster (i think), I assume you are not talking about Carolina BBQ, in which case, you have absolutely no reference point from which to speak.
Carolina BBQ is, of course, the best there is, so unless you've tried it, don't come into a thread and start spraying about pork...
You may all resume talking about old white men in the sky now...
|
|
|
|
|
thorne
Deleted
Jul 13, 2005, 5:36 PM
Post #46 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered:
Posts:
|
In reply to: In reply to: I like barbequed pork. I do no care all that much for pork chops. DMT I think you're full of it, stupid N00b. :wink: You haven't even specified what kind of barbequed pork you like, which clearly shows you are not a very knowledgable barbeque-er. Since you're a west coaster (i think), I assume you are not talking about Carolina BBQ, in which case, you have absolutely no reference point from which to speak. Carolina BBQ is, of course, the best there is, so unless you've tried it, don't come into a thread and start spraying about pork...
Nice work, tripper. Way to represent.
Carolina BBQ is the original. All others are mere spinoffs. Anyone who says different is quite simply... FULL OF SHIT!!!
What really matters is your preference - Eastern or Western?
|
|
|
|
|
dookie
Jul 13, 2005, 5:44 PM
Post #47 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Nov 25, 2003
Posts: 3528
|
[quote="flipnfall]This is why we should have compassion on homosexuals. They are stuck being gay.I would like to thank flip for the coffee all over my screen.
Sincerely,
Stuck Straight
bwwwwwhahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa! :lol:
|
|
|
|
|
slablizard
Jul 13, 2005, 6:24 PM
Post #48 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Oct 13, 2003
Posts: 5558
|
:roll:
NOT...............AGAIN!!!
NUFF with the religious Crap! Get a Life! A Girflriend! A dog! But stop it!
|
|
|
|
|
pinktricam
Jul 13, 2005, 6:44 PM
Post #50 of 100
(2644 views)
Shortcut
Registered: Jan 8, 2003
Posts: 7947
|
Rock on Justineous :!: Great post, bro'.
|
|
|
|
|
|
