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When sending a multi-pitched route, what do you do with the pack/s you carried the gear in? Leave them? Lug them?

I need some input. Thanks.


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No, but if it's a difficult lead, I dont want to be lugging a pack on my back. Would you suggest tying them on the rope end and lugging them after the second?


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It all dependence in what you do there is no one strict method of transport use YOUR judgment
and ASSESS the situation if hard, steep and technical and done in alpine style then haul away
if back to the same spot but still challenging climb… then take what u need and climb without
easy ground and done in alpine ridge line style then ware it on(assuming the pack is light enough…if not give to the belayer the bulk of the weight and u (the leader) climb with the light one….or with none)
BTW...Your Q is extremely open ended


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Thanks punk. That's a very enlightening suggestion


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If the climbing is mellow, everyone carries his own stuff. If it's too hard to lead with a pack, the second carries it. If it's too hard for the second to carry, you haul *before* bringing up the second because the pack will get caught and you will want someone to free it.

Hauling your pack can get expensive if you don't have a robust pack.

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On long climbs we will rack up at the car (assuming its not a hell approach) and carry (the second usually is the "pack bitch") a small pack that has the water, food and any additional clothing we may need, we clip our shoes (usually teva sandals) to the outside of the pack.
If I am craggin I'll take my pack and leave it at the base, hiding any extra gear that is on the ground.
I would never consider hauling a pack on a multi pitch free climb, it would beat the heck out of the pack and take way too long.

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It depends on the climb or the area. If you can rack up at your car and then you just carry your shoes and a water bottle on your harness or maybe a small pack. If you know you are coming back to the base at the end of the climb then just stash your packs there. I only haul my pack up when I absolutely have to.


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Radistrad and Bolder, thanks for the info I know the question is a bit open-ended. I just wanted to see how everyone else handles it.


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i leave my pack in the car and wear/carry all my gear to the route.


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Thanks Steve. This seems like the best thing to do. I see others do it, but I just feel strange clinking around unless I'm on the wall


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yea, but if it is a long hike to the crag then i would recomend packing your gear in a pack, just a little more comfortable that way.


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I use my Camelback Peak Bagger if I am on route that is far and that I wont be able to come back to my pack. It holds my rack while hiking but reduces down while I climb. Sucks on OW and chimney's though. Have to haul through those sections.
But like everyone else said if its not to far just leave the pack.


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If I'm able to return to the base, I leave a pack there for the rope, rack and whatnot.I have a bullet pack that zips off for carrying the first aid kit, water and camera.

Otherwise, I wear my harness and rack on the approach and carry the bullet pack or something larger right away. I only haul as a last resort on hard pitches. For chimneys, I hang the pack on the end of my daisy chain and drag it up under me

Peace

karl


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RE hanging the pack from the daisy in chimneys - that's because Karl's nice. If you are not nice and you have some extra rope, tie a nice big butterfly loop that hangs below you and keep yelling "tension" as you climb. The belayer will think there's suddenly a lot of drag and you're scared, but he'll do the main work of pulling up the pack.


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Thanks y'all for the handy dandy input


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