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majid_sabet
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11-year-old boy injured in rock climbing accident
Sept.17,2005
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STRAWBERRY POINT, Iowa An 11-year-old Cedar Rapids boy has been seriously injured when he fell 60-feet in a rock climbing accident at Backbone State Park in eastern Iowa.
Officials with the Iowa Department of Natural Resources say the boy was on a scout camping trip when he was "freeclimbing" the face of a cliff without any protective gear, such has rope or a harness.
Such climbing is not allowed in the park, near Strawberry Point.
The boy's name hasn't been released.
He was taken to a hospital in Manchester before being air-lifted to St. Luke's hospital in Cedar Rapids.
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Sept 19, 2005
I received this info today
Mj
He apparently tried to grab vegetation at the top of the cliff but it gave way, causing the boy to fall, the DNR said.
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dima
Sep 18, 2005, 6:18 PM
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did he climb 60 feet up, and well off from it, or did he climb 3 feet up, fell off, and fell down the slab for 60 feet??
if he climbed 60 feet, and fell off, then i'm sorry to be an asshole, and jerk, but I just have to laugh at the stupidity of that idiot..
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boku
Sep 18, 2005, 6:25 PM
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In reply to: ... i'm sorry to be an asshole, and jerk, but I just have to laugh at the stupidity of that idiot..
Don't worry. When you do something life-threateningly stupid, we'll laugh at you. It's instant karma at its finest.
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Sep 18, 2005, 6:31 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ... i'm sorry to be an asshole, and jerk, but I just have to laugh at the stupidity of that idiot.. Don't worry. When you do something life-threateningly stupid, we'll laugh at you. It's instant karma at its finest. |
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lilclimber18
Sep 18, 2005, 6:44 PM
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i think we should stop worrying about how "stupid" he was, and start praying for the kid. we all make mistakes... i just hope he is ok.
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majid_sabet
Sep 18, 2005, 6:47 PM
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Those who never seen or heard of Bad Karma will get their chance.
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jinx
Sep 18, 2005, 6:54 PM
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lilclimber18 is right....
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climberxterra
Sep 18, 2005, 6:57 PM
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The question should be, why and who let the boyscout climb that high without any protection? And, if he wasn't being supervised, why wasn't he? On top of that, whoever let this scout climb without any safety is giving the climbing community a bad reputation and alienating the non climbing community in a negative way. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for this kid, but I hope whoever was in charge of the scouts gets some kind of charges filed against him or her.
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dima
Sep 18, 2005, 7:19 PM
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for whoever was wondering what age am I, I am 19.
As for the little empty head kid, if you are stupid enough to climb 60 feet... 60 (!!!) FEET!!! ... not 5 feet, 10 feet, but 60!! not protected and not to know that if you fall - you might hurt yourself, then something is wrong with that kid.
he is not 5 or 6, he is 11, he knows that if you fall from any height it will hurt. He already has a consious, and can think. If he is not capable of thinking that 60 feet is dangerous, and still climbs on it, and then falls from it, would you say that he is a smart one???
or if 11 year old kid sticks his finger in electrical socket, and gets tazed, would you feel sorry for him? i don't. nor feel sorry for that dumb one falling off the rock.
for editing:
and yes, i admit, we all make mistakes. for example.. look at my parents! they did a mistake and gave birth to me, and evil SOB :D just kidding. sry, i was little wrong too
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hope he lives to learn from hes mistake.
dima... maybe an 11year old doesnt realize its stupid. he probably didnt even think that he migh fall.
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climberxterra
Sep 18, 2005, 7:24 PM
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Ok, so the kid probably was a moron, but that's not to say that it wasn't the responsibility of the scout leader to watch him and tell him when he is doing stupid stuff (climbing 60 ft. without any protection).
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lilclimber18
Sep 18, 2005, 7:25 PM
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In reply to: The question should be, why and who let the boyscout climb that high without any protection? And, if he wasn't being supervised, why wasn't he? On top of that, whoever let this scout climb without any safety is giving the climbing community a bad reputation and alienating the non climbing community in a negative way. Don't get me wrong, I do feel bad for this kid, but I hope whoever was in charge of the scouts gets some kind of charges filed against him or her.
exactly, i would like to know that too... anyone have info?
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ctardi
Sep 18, 2005, 7:30 PM
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He most likely seen a movie such as mission imposible, or cliffhanger, wich show a 'cool' guy climbing hundreds of feet without protection, and wanted to be like that.
I hope he is okay, and whoever should have been watching him should be feeling very bad right now...
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lilclimber18
Sep 18, 2005, 7:32 PM
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i dont know if you've ever been a kid, but kids do stupid things - without thinking. im a kid, ive done stupid things as well. i bet he was just climbing - the thought of falling probably didnt even come to him. sometimes, you just climb... w/o thinking. whenver i climb, i dont even think of what im doing, i just kinda go along with my hands and feet... (although i always climb w/ equipment... and supervision)
...now why he was climbing w/o protection, and w/o supervision (as climbxterra was saying) is another question. its a good point though.
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Sep 18, 2005, 7:33 PM
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Dima wrote:
In reply to: As for the little empty head kid, if you are stupid enough to climb 60 feet... 60 (!!!) FEET!!! ... not 5 feet, 10 feet, but 60!! not protected and not to know that if you fall - you might hurt yourself, then something is wrong with that kid.
Hey you un-compassionate tard...maybe somthing IS wrong with that kid...maybe he has autism, a learning disability, maybe he is mentally challenged...maybe he escaped from the rest of the group...maybe his mind didnt set off any alarms like mine or yours would being at 60 feet sans rope...maybe you spoke before knowing the facts about the accident?
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andy_reagan
Sep 18, 2005, 7:35 PM
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I smell a lawsuit...
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hypoxia
Sep 18, 2005, 7:37 PM
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Not knowing the details I think all that can be said is that this was a great tragedy for the boy, his parents, the boy scouts and the climbing community. I hope the kid can climb again (with appropriate instruction) and that the general public doesn't take this accident and others like it to be representative of climbing or scouting.
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lilclimber18
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In reply to: Dima wrote: In reply to: As for the little empty head kid, if you are stupid enough to climb 60 feet... 60 (!!!) FEET!!! ... not 5 feet, 10 feet, but 60!! not protected and not to know that if you fall - you might hurt yourself, then something is wrong with that kid. Hey you un-compassionate tard...maybe somthing IS wrong with that kid...maybe he has autism, a learning disability, maybe he is mentally challenged...maybe he escaped from the rest of the group...maybe his mind didnt set off any alarms like mine or yours would being at 60 feet sans rope...maybe you spoke before knowing the facts about the accident?
true. (except for the part of calling dima a tard - because that is the point that you are saying was wrong to say)
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lilclimber18
Sep 18, 2005, 7:40 PM
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In reply to: Not knowing the details I think all that can be said is that this was a great tragedy for the boy, his parents, the boy scouts and the climbing community. I hope the kid can climb again (with appropriate instruction) and that the general public doesn't take this accident and others like it to be representative of climbing or scouting.
amen.
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hypoxia
Sep 18, 2005, 7:41 PM
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Not knowing the details I think all that can be said is that this was a great tragedy for the boy, his parents, the boy scouts and the climbing community. I hope the kid can climb again (with appropriate instruction) and that the general public doesn't take this accident and others like it to be representative of climbing or scouting.
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dima
Sep 18, 2005, 7:52 PM
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ok, i'm admitting again, that somewhat what I said is wrong, but i'm still standing strong by my point of view. 11 years old is not "little creature with 4 limps and a food-placement-department called" it is fully thinking person. Come on now.
oh, and of course, it was full responsibility of the adults to look after the kid. because he is still a kid..
nah. whatever. horrible story? yea.. feel sorry for him? not realy.
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Sep 18, 2005, 7:55 PM
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Sounds like a possible Darwin Award to me!
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Isn't it amazing the way we have the same conversation everytime something awful happens to a climber? We have the group of people who react with compassion, being able to imagine such an event happening to some flawed but real human. Then we have the group who react with self-righteous criticism and concern for their own access rights. And both groups look around for who to blame, because blaming someone makes us feel better.
Over and over, the same conversation. I think nobody is wrong here, but some people are just thinking about themselves.
I can imagine this kid being my neice or nephew. I can imagine the adventure he thought he was on, and how excited he must have been to make it so high. I can imagine his last, horrifying mistake.
It makes me not care who is at fault. It's just a wretched tragedy.
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lilclimber18
Sep 18, 2005, 8:17 PM
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i was actually about to say the same thing. every thread on this forum somehow turns into an arguement. like i said before, stop argueing about how "stupid" he is, and start praying...
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oldrnotboldr
Sep 18, 2005, 8:26 PM
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Where was the scout masters/ leaders who are supposed to be monitoring these kids?
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