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bigsauce


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When hauling a rack up the rock, do you find yourself more in the Boy Scout "Be Prepared" categorie or do you think of yourself as more of an Evil Caneival type who likes to climb light? Just curious what everyone thinks...


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I suppose i would fall into the dare devil categeory, but not by choice, I can't afford to get every piece of gear.

If i know the route well i would only take what i need.


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i normally carry everything i think i will need. (which is normally more then necessary).


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i don't have a very heavy rack so i usualyy take it all


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Well, considering I'm a big pu--- (please pardon my language) ever since a big whipper, and my fear of falling and killing myself, I play it safe. I take chances now and again, but try to avoid it. Besides, I like to place gear as much as I like to climb. Always looking for that "bombproof" rig.

So...

Boy Scout all the way.

Hey, I have a wife that I love more than climbing and we haven't started a family yet. I'd like to be around for that, so I'll go with "be prepared".

Steve


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I usually take a bunch and then don't end up placing very much when I'm on form.

I haven't been able to go climbing as much lately so I'm more like a cub scout at this moment in time.

Maybe a weeblo.


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Boy scout all right. You know the quote "there are old climbers, there are bold climbers, there are no old bold climbers". Sorry, maybe I am old school, but the first thing I got taught by my first trad climbing partner was :no. 1 is safety, and safety is now ingrained in my climbing approach. But I guess is horses for courses, climbing is great also because of its freedom. Cheers


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Boy Scout on speed. Being a chicken, I would place gear every move if I could. Plus I seem to actually fall on my gear a lot. I specialize in the two foot whipper. Always take one of everything--I can't count the number of times I've looked at what looked like a finger crack and longed for a #4 camelot somewhere near the top.


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I'd have to say that it's not an either-or situation. Rather, it's a spectrum with boy scout on one end and daredevil on the other. I go back and forth, depending on the route's dificulty, length, and how I happen to be feeling that day. I do tend to lean towards boy scout though, because I'd rather carry unused gear than die. I'm just silly that way. On the other hand, the lighter I go, the faster I can move, and the less tired I get. Geez, you're making me think too much.


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Boy Scout

Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Couteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverent. Well, ten out of twelve ain't too bad right?

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Boy Scout for sure. I look like a porcupine crawling up the rock with all of the gear on my rack.


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Does placeing pro every foot make me an Evil Caneival?
Just joking. I'd ditto wildtrail. Placing gear is fun, trying to get the right fit and bomb proff is the best!


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Boy scout, for sure. Personally, I'd rather have too much than not enough. Plus, I tend to lace up sketchy sections.


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I even bring the kitchen sink.


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Safe than sorry, I'm a Boy Scout, I guess.
Why have all the cool gear if your not going to use it.
I generally bring more than what is needed, I rack for the climb. Obviously one would not bring a 6" cam on a 1" crack...

Hmmm, I'd rather be a live coward than a dead "hero"


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Well, I guess i am a boy scout. I usualy cary more gear than is needed but i do crazy stuff on the wall so i think im both, am i


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I err on the side of caution.

I take a look at the guidebook for initial pointers. Then I scope the route as best I can. If it’s a long multi-pitch route, I know that I will need additional pieces for belay anchors.

”Tis better to have it and not need it…than to need it and not have it”

If the leader is about to cast off and feels that he/she doesn’t need that #4 camalot for that pitch, they’ll pass it onto the second.

Heck, if for nothing else you can use your rack to weight an unstable slung nut on a hangerlessbolt!


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No you don't superdiamonddave. I remember a 120 ft pitch with 3 peices of gear.

Chuck


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Ahh, this may be true young grasshopper. While I might have only placed three pieces, I still took along the kitchen sink for good measure.


chuckd278


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Aha true superdiamonddave, true.


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boy, err, girl scout. I try to take doubles of small-medium everything.

Just climbed with a guide who placed everything, stoppers and cams, so meticulously that you had to slip everything out at a precise angle to retrieve it. He said he'd fallen at times and pulled pieces. Whoa.


elvislegs


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I am The Last Boy Scout

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Boy Scout all the way! "Always be prepared."


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Long free routes that I have not done I tend to over do it.

But on single pitch climbs or a long route I have done I can eyeball what I need and dont bog myself down with gear.

I would hate to bring all my cams up route since I own 35. Too much weight.



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Be careful to hide those reefers where they will not br found. and be careful not to smoke them when the scout masters around...for he only will insist they will be shared!


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