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tenesmus
Oct 9, 2005, 3:24 AM
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My friends are making me go to Zion to do some "Canyoneering". Then I find out they want to do the Subway and Mystery Canyons. Not that there's anything wrong with doing them, but going down there without climbing might just scar me for life. I'd really like to do some free climbing but I know there isn't anything I'd be able to take them on. So, what do you do with your gumby friends for a day in Zion? please don't say go to Snow canyon.
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atg200
Oct 9, 2005, 11:47 AM
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Ashtar Command? Its a pretty easy 5.9, and more of a face climb than straight in jamming so it might be easier for gumbies. Cool summit too.
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tradmanclimbs
Oct 9, 2005, 12:51 PM
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I don't think that Zion an easy really go in the same sentance verry well :twisted:
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tetons
Oct 9, 2005, 3:38 PM
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Well, just hike up Angel's Landing and call it a day. Very thrilling and even gumbies will be grateful. They don't make trails like that in Nat'l Parks anymore.
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irockclimb
Oct 9, 2005, 11:47 PM
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I have never climbed in Zion but i would also recommend hiking angels landing i think its only 7 miles round trip and a very beautiful view.
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tenesmus
Oct 10, 2005, 12:16 AM
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In reply to: I have never climbed in Zion but i would also recommend hiking angels landing i think its only 7 miles round trip and a very beautiful view. we've all done it a bazillion times and you're right - it really is one of the best bangs for your buck anywhere. What's Ashtar Command? I'm interested. Anyone know how far up Taylor Creek do you go to get to those hueco'd sport routes and crack routes?
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jacobbelsher
Oct 10, 2005, 1:53 AM
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instead of angels landing, do the old lady mountian trail. Better views, not quite the exposure, and absolutely noone but you
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atg200
Oct 10, 2005, 7:17 PM
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ashtar command is the little tower along the road right before you get to the tunnels. park as for the headache, and it is totally roadside on the uphill side of the road. two pitches - first is 5.8ish crack and the second is 5.9ish bolted face.
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no_one
Oct 11, 2005, 12:13 AM
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If you just want to crag, the cerberus has a fun 5.7 called the cave route because it ends in a cave. Imagine that. There's also a realy good 5.9 in the same area called Cherry Crack. In typical Zion fashion, the best part is guarded by a wide weird section but the splitter above is great. Have fun.
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mandrake
Oct 12, 2005, 6:43 PM
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As no_one said, go to the Cerebus area. There are a couple of days worth of mostly very quality single pitch routes from 5.7 up to 11 with chain anchors. You can leave a rope on some easier stuff for them, and then you can lead something out of their range and just clean it on rap. I can't remember the author, but there's a little blue Zion Climbs guidebook that's cheapish and will give you the beta (it's also got Ashtar Command in it).
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atg200
Oct 12, 2005, 7:16 PM
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the author is alex mcafee. you can borrow the book from me if you can't find it clay.
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tenesmus
Oct 13, 2005, 12:17 AM
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In reply to: the author is alex mcafee. you can borrow the book from me if you can't find it clay. Thanks andrew. I can see it in my mind - and heard about it when I did the Headache. Its coming back to me out of the fog. Its on kind of a blocky tower just up and right of the tunnel shack. My friends want to do Das Boot. Should be interesting. Isn't it weird to want to stay in slc when the weather will be so fantastic...
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brutusofwyde
Oct 14, 2005, 11:10 PM
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Checkerboard Mesa. One of the most adventurous 5.7s I have ever encountered. Short approach, too.
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tenesmus
Oct 17, 2005, 3:11 AM
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Mystery was a slog, but without the swims of previous years due to the winter's flash flooding. Ashtar was fun, but clouds rolled in as we were warming up. We didn't get to do anything else because we headed to Pine Creek to beat out the rain. As soon as we got off the last rap a downpour with hail came on. Perfect timing. Chuckwalla wall was good enough. That climb on the prow in the middle is super fun.
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