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superbum
Oct 1, 2005, 4:20 AM
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OK, Just curious as to how many climbers out there have actually done a FA. No need to spray about it!!! Maybe say if you equiped them or not, how long you've been climbing, what type of routes (sport, trad, etc.) and the grades. Not too much detail though...
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dirtineye
Oct 1, 2005, 4:53 AM
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God you're a fucking idiot.
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superbum
Oct 1, 2005, 5:30 AM
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Edited...because I have now calmed down. You all missed some creative swearing and some ranting/raving. Dirtineye is srill an ass though.
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the_dude
Oct 1, 2005, 5:35 AM
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Plenty of boulder problems. A bunch of sport, equipped by myself, 5.9-5.11+. Some mountain stuff too. Been climbing about 10 years.
Cheers
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microbarn
Oct 1, 2005, 5:38 AM
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I can rate today, and I am happier for it.
Never done nothing no how to no rock.
...ok, I climbed someone else's stuff once or twice.
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superbum
Oct 1, 2005, 6:04 AM
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Thanks everyone (almost) for replying and answering the poll! I myself have put up a whole slew of problems on virgin granite in Idaho from v0-v6ish. I just made the FA of a trad route recently. One bolt, thin gear, 5.10+. I've been climbing for 3 years.
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kman
Oct 1, 2005, 6:08 AM
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I think your post is just a crafty way at finding a low key way of spraying :roll:
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sick_climba
Oct 1, 2005, 6:14 AM
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I have sent a few virgin climbs and made some boulder probs. I have only been climbing for ... I guess 10 months now. By they way I think anyone who assumes this post is a way to spray is full of it. It was an honest question and you are entitled to your opinion but if your going to be nasty about it keep your mouth shut. Kman... I respect you you voiced your opinion with out being disrespectful!
Climb on
Chris
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climbsomething
Oct 1, 2005, 6:22 AM
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This thread reminds me of the time fshizzle almost slept with his sister...
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superbum
Oct 1, 2005, 6:37 AM
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In reply to: I think your post is just a crafty way at finding a low key way of spraying :roll:
I disagree. I am just curious as to how many people (on this site) are putting up climbs and how long they've been cllimbing, etc. I won't deny that I am very happy and proud of my new route, but I put this post in Poll form for a reason. Thanks for not being a jerk, too! :)
And to be completly honest, I was bored of all the current posts and wanted to start my own and this was all I could come up with.
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thomasribiere
Oct 1, 2005, 6:43 AM
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I personaly think this thread is worth to be answered (note the alliteration here).
ANd no it desn't remember me the time when fshizzle slept with his sister.
I did one last spring in Red Rock.
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healyje
Oct 1, 2005, 7:58 AM
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It would be a more interesting poll if you differentiated between sport and trad FA's
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guangzhou
Oct 1, 2005, 9:01 AM
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I have put up a few first accents. I am prominently a trad climber, but most of my first accents are sport.
I have also put up a few multipitch lines, sport and trad, and some boulder problems. I am going to do my first first accent of a Big Wall line this fall.
Eman
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saltamonte
Oct 1, 2005, 1:47 PM
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I have an FA on a route http://www.rockclimbing.com/...Area.php?AreaID=9015 before
however i am curious how do you determine if you FA a boulder problem doesn't everyone climb random boulders or traverse the bases of cliffs before between and after climbs. I do realize some of you are very scientific about their approach to bouldering with guide books and ratings and such but for the rest of us who just climb everything that doesn't move and occassionally some things that do. I imagine i have been the first to climb many a particular spot but how do we determine the difference between just normal playing around and an official FA of a boulder problem?
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Oct 1, 2005, 4:35 PM
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I know that I have a few FA's. I come from the Sierria Nevada Mountaineering Approch: If there is no route Beta for the climb, it probably already has been ascended. However, (
PS: I personally don't believe that a person who has been climbing for 10 months has the skills to make a FA. Eat it and die, Troll.
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modman
Oct 1, 2005, 4:45 PM
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I have never done an ascent that was listed in some book someplace as being the first one to do it. I have seen climbs in books that list someone else as having done the first ascent and dated years after I had climbed the area.
I have done many alpine routes that most likely have been done before but I never saw listed some place as a route.
I don't believe you can have a "first ascent" on a sport route as it has already been laid out foot by foot from the top.
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superbum
Oct 1, 2005, 5:04 PM
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Saltamonte...I agree that Bouldering by it's nature is hard to quantify and get a handle on as far as FAs go. Especially on easier problems. It seems like the harder, cleaner, more asthatic the line (just like for routes, now that I think about it) the more coveted the problem and the more clearer the ascent history. I think most climbers play around and scramble/climb over most rocks that they find in thier path. Does that mean we are all first ascentionists? I think a real "problem" is born when some thought, work, creativity and cleaning go into it before and during the FA. I think...
In reply to: Just because the route is dirty and bushes are grown all over it doesn't mean that it hasn't been climbed before.
I'll agree with that too...up to a point. Dave Bingham (guidbook author for the City of Rocks Idaho) Thought he did the FA of a cool flake route, hidden a bit from wandering eyes, in the 80's. As he and his partner left the base to hike out they ran into someone and began to spray about their new climb. Turns out that person was the real First ascentionist and climbed the line 20 years before! One has to consult local history, look for chalk, brush marks (from cleaning), fixed gear, even look at the base to see if it looks "padded out." Trad ascents in remote areas are especially dificult.
I know My FAs are FAs because of the amount of cleaning it took to make the climb possible. We're not talking bushes and grass either, but lichen and moss...tons of it. That stuff doesn't just cover a boulder overnight, or even in 20 years.
Thanks all for creating a discusion....
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pud
Oct 1, 2005, 9:17 PM
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"Loosey, I'm home"
5.10a
90 ft Trad
Jtree, left side canyon, 300 feet left of "poodles are people too"
1999
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lichenmuncher
Oct 14, 2005, 3:01 AM
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8^)
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tallnik
Oct 14, 2005, 4:00 AM
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I've done plenty of bouldering in Alpine settings, where it was entirely possible that we were doing FAs.
The thing is, we didn't care...
We were out having fun, figuring out the moves to crank some fun and silly problems, as well as a few hard ones a long the way.
Note: We also did no "cleaning"to any moss or lichen, it being an alpine setting. We tried to only climb boulders which didn't involve cleaning.
Snow makes a decent crashpad!
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cracklover
Oct 14, 2005, 4:17 AM
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Yes. Single pitch trad, multi pitch trad, and TR. Easiest, around 5.5. Hardest, around 5.10+
I honestly don't see why anyone would care, though. I'm no hot-shot, I'm just doing my thing.
GO
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cracklover
Oct 14, 2005, 4:20 AM
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Oh, and bouldering, too, I guess. Maybe up to V2. But does it count if I don't spray about it?
GO
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shanz
Oct 14, 2005, 4:25 AM
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Only one called ANGEL named after my fiance as a wedding gift - 5.9 hunters bluff KY
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kalcario
Oct 14, 2005, 4:36 AM
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stacks of boulder problems in the Valley which we know were fa's because of the landscape engineering involved
15-20 single or 2 pitch crack climbs in the Park and elsewhere, most of which have probably returned to their original weed-infested state
a few sport climbs in Yosemite and Owens
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annak
Oct 14, 2005, 5:23 AM
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How about First Descents? I've done some in Tuolomne and Joshua Tree --;).
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