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janeothejungle


Nov 9, 2005, 11:09 PM
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Anyone done WFLT in Nov-Dec? I'm looking to have a go here shortly but I hear that ahwahnee ledge is not protected in a storm like most of the rest of the route. Opinions? Ideas for other winter walls after I finish that one? thanks.


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According to Supertopo, a lot of the routes on the east face of El Cap are protected, because they are overhanging.


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a buddy (sfclimber on here) and i are doing the nose here on thursday. we're bringing a ledge/fly just in case a storm does hit.

wflt is protected in general becuase it is overhanging. just bring a ledge and fly (and bivysack)and you should be fine.


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i was looking into doing this route last winter and it looked like a pretty good bet. I've been on the zodiac in Feb. and i never saw more than dinner plates coming down on the whole east side of el cap. I'm sure conditions change from year to year and storm to storm though.

I'm thinking of doing sunkist next month - anyone have any winter specific beta on conditions on the west side?


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I'm thinking of doing sunkist next month - anyone have any winter specific beta on conditions on the west side?

That's a bad place to be in a storm.

I did Native Son a few years back in Nov. It is one of the steeper routes bit you wouldn't want to get caught on the upper pitches in a storm. A little slabby it is.

I would recommend Zodiac or ZM.


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If you top out in a wet storm on LT, you might have the pleasure of rappelling in waterfalls on the descent. A friend of mine was stuck for two days in the october storm last year because the descent was not possible.

Not to mention the water flow washing rocks and debries through the narrow rap course.

Perhaps consider something easy on W. Column...The routes are not as protected, but you can rap the routes from any point (South Face, Southern Man, Skull Queen) and be on the ground in an hour if you need to do so. Additionally, the full sun during the day is pleasant.

-Kate.


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I would guess that WFLT is a fine wall to do in the winter as long as you have a window that is long enough .. (ie 24 hrs) ..

do it in a push .. then you dont have to worry about bivies ..


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I'm with Kate on this one.

Leaning Tower is shady and cold. WC gets a fair amount of sun. Just don't go up if the forecast is shakey. These are short walls after all so sussing the weather is reasonably possible.

Much harder to do the Tower in a push on cold ass winter days Ricardol, at least more miserable.

Peace

Karl


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true, true ..

.. bring a jacket


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