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clymber
Dec 16, 2005, 5:04 AM
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what is was like to be happy...have good friends and no real worries
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zozo
Dec 16, 2005, 5:08 AM
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In reply to: what is was like to be happy...have good friends and no real worries Buzzkill
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climberchic
Dec 16, 2005, 6:15 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: what is was like to be happy...have good friends and no real worries Buzzkill Give the guy an effin break, will ya. It's the freakin holidays, for crissakes. :roll: Lew - I'm still your bud. I PM'd you with my phone number. Call me if you want to talk.
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clymber
Dec 16, 2005, 7:49 PM
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dave ill make sure to bringthe happy face saturday night just so i dont bring you down
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mother_sheep
Dec 16, 2005, 8:22 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: what is was like to be happy...have good friends and no real worries Buzzkill Give the guy an effin break, will ya. It's the freakin holidays, for crissakes. :roll: Lew - I'm still your bud. I PM'd you with my phone number. Call me if you want to talk. Lew, you always know where to find me. Sorry the shit has gotten you down. We'll have some drinks on Sat night and do some climbing while I'm off work.
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mother_sheep
Dec 16, 2005, 8:24 PM
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In reply to: dave ill make sure to bringthe happy face saturday night just so i dont bring you down I highly doubts he'll even show up. But bring the happy face anyway.
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clymber
Dec 16, 2005, 8:26 PM
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once cindy grabs my ass i might cheer up a little
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mother_sheep
Dec 16, 2005, 8:27 PM
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In reply to: once cindy grabs my ass i might cheer up a little She'll be waiting for you at the door. We're heading up together so maybe a double grab. One cheek for each of us.
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clymber
Dec 16, 2005, 8:32 PM
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might have to find some chaps then and go commando so i get the full skin on skin feel.......2 hotties and me in the middle....sounds like it might be a fun Lew sandwich
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clymber
Dec 16, 2005, 8:35 PM
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think i needto go out and find some chaps....go commando under them so i get the full skin on skin feel....me in the middle of 2 hotties......sounds like it will be agreat lew sandwich
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zozo
Dec 16, 2005, 8:36 PM
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In reply to: I highly doubts he'll even show up. But bring the happy face anyway. Oh for crying out loud. I thought clymber was trying to be funny, I was trying to be funny back and I sincerly apologize for forgetting the smiley face. In any case when I realized he was'nt trying to be funny I sent him a PM apologizing for coming off as callous. Don't expect 25 pages of drama out of me.
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mother_sheep
Dec 16, 2005, 8:37 PM
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In reply to: might have to find some chaps then and go commando so i get the full skin on skin feel.......2 hotties and me in the middle....sounds like it might be a fun Lew sandwich Don't forget the pickle.
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mother_sheep
Dec 16, 2005, 8:51 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: I highly doubts he'll even show up. But bring the happy face anyway. Oh for crying out loud. I thought clymber was trying to be funny, I was trying to be funny back and I sincerly apologize for forgetting the smiley face. In any case when I realized he was'nt trying to be funny I sent him a PM apologizing for coming off as callous. Don't expect 25 pages of drama out of me. How sweet. Kicking people while they're down is not funny. You have a habit of doing it almost as if you're trying to make yoursel feel better. I agree, there won't be 25 pages of drama and mud slinging between you and I. Like my opinion of you, it's utterly pointless.
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rufusandcompany
Dec 16, 2005, 9:15 PM
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In reply to: I agree, there won't be 25 pages of drama and mud slinging between you and I. Like my opinion of you, it's utterly pointless. :wtf: M_S!!! Are you trying to one-up me? Nice sucker punch. :wink:
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mother_sheep
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In reply to: In reply to: I agree, there won't be 25 pages of drama and mud slinging between you and I. Like my opinion of you, it's utterly pointless. :wtf: M_S!!! Are you trying to one-up me? Nice sucker punch. :wink: I would NEVER! Does this mean I get to sucke punch you in SLC? Just kiddin.
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rufusandcompany
Dec 16, 2005, 11:12 PM
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In reply to: I would NEVER! Does this mean I get to sucke punch you in SLC? Just kiddin. Hmmm... Was that a Freudian slip, M_S? 8^)
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nate_miller
Dec 17, 2005, 1:05 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: I would NEVER! Does this mean I get to sucke punch you in SLC? Just kiddin. Hmmm... Was that a Freudian slip, M_S? 8^) Sounds more like a Freudian skid/crash... 8^)
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bobd1953
Dec 17, 2005, 1:35 AM
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Lew-- I think we might have met a few times...I could be wrong. Kelly (kcrag) told me a little about your deal and your friend a couple of years ago. Don't know what happened or if he made it (lived)? I lost my nephew to a car accident about three years ago. He was a young, (22) vibrant and wonderful kid. He lived with us for years and was like a son. He was a best friend to my son Adam and played a big role in all of our lives (family). He was a big goofy kid who loved to be outside and hang out with his cousins (my kids). My wife was a mother to him and I try to be a role model (dad) as the best I could. He didn't have the best deal growing up...but somehow made the best of it. He worked with me and the last time I saw him (the night before died) I gave him a hug and told him I see him in the morning. He was driving to our house to go mountain biking with Adam, me and my son Jeremy. He never made it. He was killed in an car accident about three miles from our house. Nothing has been normal or made sense since he died. The pain comes in waves and can be overwhelming. My family basiclly fell apart after he died. Everyone of us had to deal with it (and still are) in our own way. All I can say is that time seems to heal and mend the damage. You never get over the loss of someone you love or a close friend. You go have to go living and do the best that you can. I try and celebrate Justin's life by living mine to the fullest. Life is a special gift. You still have it. Every time I catch a fish (he was a big fly fisherman) or go on a mountain bike ride or see something beautiful I try and think about him. I have some free time and if you like to get out climbing or just talk...drop me a line. Hope this helped...it has for me (just talking about it). Later, Bob
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climberchic
Dec 17, 2005, 4:56 AM
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Bob, I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. Wow, just three years ago? It must be still really hard on you and your family. It gets easier with time, but only if you can make it over that deep sorrow hurdle and are able to really appreciate the good times you had together without getting so sad. You're doing the right thing by talking about it. Too often we talk alot right around the time that it happens and for a little while after the funeral, then we just bottle it all up inside because we don't want to relive that painful time. Often that supreme pain comes up and "is overwhelming" and sometimes we just shut it off as quickly as it came as a way to protect ourselves. But the more you talk about it, the more the hurdles get smaller and farther apart, and the sadness isn't so overwhelming next time you think about it. Maybe your family can do this together to repair some damage. Hopefully they will realize the injustice they are doing to your nephews life by breaking apart instead of pulling together. Again, what a tradgedy. I'm so sorry for your loss.
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climbsomething
Dec 17, 2005, 5:18 AM
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Three years ago next week, one of my best friends was killed. Hit by a car. She was 19. This might sound weird, but I look forward to the anniversary this year, in a celebratory dia de los muertos kind of way. I believe in "signs," and I know she sent me one last year, just to say hi. That was just so cool. It took time but I find it easier to celebrate her memory than focus on the fact that she is in fact dead. I hope, if you're going through a death, you can do that too. It's a lovely liberating feeling.
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I donīt usually tell anyone this, much less post it on the internet, and Iīll probably erase this post later on, so please no one quote me. Almost a year ago (last week of December) I lost my best friend since junior high in a car accident. I got a call from his sister first, telling me there had been an accident, and that they were in a hospital. I couldnīt understand what was happening so I started to ask her what she meant, but she broke down crying and her dad took the phone. He told me my friend had wrecked, and that he had died. He was dead when the paramedics got there so the doctors thought he had gone instantly. I didnīt know what to say. I couldnīt believe this could actually be happening. I could hear the sister and mother crying at the other end of the phone while the father kept talking to me, but nothing registered. Iīll keep this short and spare most of the details. So good bye 2004. I "started" 2005 without my cuasi-brother (started... I felt like a zombie for days). He was 18 years old, had a very pretty girlfriend who he loved, spoke fluent spanish/english/italian, was a frigginī model older brother for his sister, a straight A student, A team soccer player, carismatic and honest guy, and my best friend for 5 1/2 years. He was one of the few constants Iīve had in my entire life, and 4 days since Iīd last seen him, he was gone. He was enterred in the western USA and despite our best efforts I couldnīt go. So I graduated high school, barely got into the most sought after college in the country (didnīt study AT ALL I was so depressed), started my first semester, and recently made good progress with a girl who numbs my mind. But heīs still gone, and I canīt talk to him (or I donīt/wonīt... I dunno) but heīll never answer back. Still, Iīve managed to go on (and I kind of hate myself for it). Itīs hard, but I still party like crazy like we used to, I still climb and have fun like thereīs no tomorrow, and I try to make my peace with it. Damn I wish I was a better writer, I fucking hate how this reads... not much like real life at all.
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bobd1953
Dec 17, 2005, 4:05 PM
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In reply to: Maybe your family can do this together to repair some damage. Hopefully they will realize the injustice they are doing to your nephews life by breaking apart instead of pulling together. Erica... I maybe worded that part wrong. We are a very close family. What I meant is that when something like this happens it has huge effect on you and the way you live your life each day.
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