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leewee
Jan 18, 2006, 9:01 PM
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why trad...?
its somewhat pure...
not everyone has the balls to solo the hard stuff...
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jaybro
Jan 19, 2006, 7:03 PM
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"Which is safer, 10 bomber Camalots or 10 bolts?"
stupid question. Over the years I've encountered more than ten bolt failures and never had a bomber Cam fail.
With experience, when you place a cam you know (within reason) what you're getting into. With a bolt, you NEVER know.
Not a reason to climb trad though. Just an observation.
I do it all, but generally am more moved by trad climbs.
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oldguy53
Jan 19, 2006, 10:53 PM
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It's a matter of being and being in control of yourself and the climb. The only Zen experiences I've had were on trad. Following bolts don't cut it.
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keithlester
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Jan 22, 2006, 7:37 PM
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In reply to: "Which is safer, 10 bomber Camalots or 10 bolts?" stupid question. Over the years I've encountered more than ten bolt failures and never had a bomber Cam fail. With experience, when you place a cam you know (within reason) what you're getting into. With a bolt, you NEVER know. Not a reason to climb trad though. Just an observation. I do it all, but generally am more moved by trad climbs.
With a cam "you never know" also
its all about risk assessment and managing the risk
that's what makes trad so fulfilling
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kpj240789
Jan 22, 2006, 9:13 PM
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You don't have to climb hard and you get to talk crap to sport climbers and boulderers.
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keithlester
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In reply to: It's a matter of being and being in control of yourself and the climb. The only Zen experiences I've had were on trad. Following bolts don't cut it.
Cuttin bolts, now there's another story completely :lol:
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ambler
Jan 23, 2006, 5:30 PM
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"Why walk when you've got a car?" my friend Moses Little Dog once asked.
"Why stand up when you've got a chair?" I answered. We had a good laugh.
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jammer
Jan 23, 2006, 6:21 PM
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To Go Where A Few Men/Women Have Gone Before!
No Lines
The Sound Of Nature
The Beauty That Can Be Found
and on and on and on...
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kachoong
Jan 23, 2006, 6:55 PM
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Trad is the essence and foundation of climbing. Without it, most other styles of climbing wouldn't exist.... (except probably soloing and bouldering). You don't have to account for anyone else's mistakes but your own.
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crazyscuba
Jan 23, 2006, 7:03 PM
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trad is fun, dont get me wrong, but all this talk of it being the most badass and most pure form of climbing is making me sick. you want pure, go free solo something.
i gotta say that most trad climbers i've ever met have been some of the most elitist people out there. grow up and realize you arent that badass. start doing some ice or alpine climbs, then you get my respect.
steve
i'm gonna have to call T1 on my own post. funny stuff.
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