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heximp
Jan 23, 2006, 11:04 AM
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Did anyone else have problems with this helmet? Mine cracked at the lip and I had never even used it. The helmet was on the top of my pack on it's first outing. I ran into another person complaining of the same event and I am wondering if this is common. If so, does black diamond know and does it compromise the overall safety of the helmet:???
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granite_grrl
Jan 23, 2006, 12:31 PM
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I've had mine for 3 years and have never had this happen (never heard of this happening before either). While I'll trash my helmet (carried on outside of pask, scraped on rock, etc), I don't abuse it (won't just throw it down on the ground or anything).
I would be concerned about the shell cracking or splitting. I'd take a photo of it if you have a digital camera avalible, and express your concern to BD.
Hope you helmet is an isolated incident. I was thinking of getting a new helmet soon, and would go with BD again because Petzl helmets don't fit me worth a crap.
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cjstudent
Jan 23, 2006, 12:31 PM
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yea mine cracked too. I am in the process of sending it back to BD.
I also work for my universities outdoor programs as a climbing instructor, last semester we had about 3 helmets that cracked on the lip due to being rough handled in transport i believe.
i am now a Petzl Ecrin Roc believer
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brent_e
Jan 23, 2006, 2:28 PM
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Mine cracked, too. I was messing around on a tree with my pack on, and fell about 4 feet right onto my back. My crampons were in my bag, too, so they kind of met and not I have a little scar on my helmet! I'm still going to use it, though. How large is the crack on yours?
Brent
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cjstudent
Jan 23, 2006, 6:15 PM
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I wouldnt climb with a helmet that has a crack in it. Black Diamond will probably replace that thing.
Or the petzl ecrin roc, more expensive, but in my opinion its better. Feels like it has more "beef" to it.
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mother_sheep
Jan 23, 2006, 6:20 PM
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Mine also cracked but only because I think I ran it over with my car.
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chossmonkey
Jan 23, 2006, 7:13 PM
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I'm kinda wondering why this is in the Access section?
That's what you get for buying a light weight helmet. Any helmet will break if you hit it hard enough. How much force it takes depends on the design.
Specific gear for specific usage. It wouldn't be the helmet of choice if you know you are going to be pelted with rocks multiple times or are rough with your gear. If light weight and just in case protection are what you want or need there is nothing wrong with it.
For rough usage the Petzl Ecrin works nice but they are heavier and more expensive. Probably reasons why most people didn't buy them in the first place. :wink:
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hosh
Jan 23, 2006, 7:37 PM
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also got a crack. Dont' even know how it got there...
hosh.
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veganboyjosh
Jan 23, 2006, 7:49 PM
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i got one, and i like it. alot. granted, it's my first helmet, and it was the cheapest at the store at the time.
i think the only thing i would look for in a new one is longer chinstraps. when i'm wearing a warm hat(purposefully avoiding the term beanie when discussing my helmet...), the straps are a touch short. they still reach, but it'd be a little more comfortable if they were longer.
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cracklover
Jan 23, 2006, 9:20 PM
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Mine cracked too. Did not abuse it at all, it was just in the top of my backpack. Switched to a petzl, and have been happy with it for a year or two.
GO
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phaedrus
Jan 23, 2006, 9:55 PM
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phaedrus moved this thread from Access Issues & Closures to Gear Heads.
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cracklover
Jan 23, 2006, 10:19 PM
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GO moved this thread from Gear Heads to Head Gear.
GO
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veganboyjosh
Jan 23, 2006, 10:24 PM
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In reply to: GO moved this thread from Gear Heads to Head Gear. GO
why oh why do i get to give out trophies only on days when there's no awesome posts?
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euroford
Jan 23, 2006, 10:41 PM
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i'm a big believer in hard plastic helmets and not those jinky foam bike helmets. this is probobly becouse my heart lies in ice, trad and aid so i expect my lid too take some abuse and then ask for some more.
i once had a BD half dome, i cracked it dropping it on a parking lot while offloading gear from the car. i threw it out, went helmetless for the day and then scored a Petzl Ecrin Roc.
i've been a happy man ever since.
i generally expect good things from BD stuff, but this lid ain't one of them.
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macherry
Jan 24, 2006, 2:10 AM
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my bd half dome never fit my head properly. went back to my old camp rockstar.
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nedsurf
Jan 24, 2006, 2:47 AM
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I like my half dome. don't have any problem with it. I want a HB carbon helmet though. they're so cool! :lol:
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heximp
Jan 24, 2006, 9:44 PM
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The crack is two inches on the front lip of the helmet. I did not abuse it. The only use it ever saw was being carried from my car on the top of my pack. The only pressure on it was being strapped and compressed down upon my gear. It never has been on a climb, dropped, or even scratched. Next helmet is going to be Petzl after this experience...
Though I did send it back to BD for a new one. We will see if it does it agian.
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jimdavis
Jan 25, 2006, 1:33 AM
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In reply to: I like my half dome. don't have any problem with it. I want a HB carbon helmet though. they're so cool! :lol:
I think HB went under, and that helmet is not that well padded...it flexs a lot laterally too.
I like it for ice, cause I fell better about taking an Adze to the helmet with this one, than with a pure plastic helmet...but thats about it.
Cheers,
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phugganut
Jan 25, 2006, 2:41 AM
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I've had 2 of them crack on me. However the first one doesn't really count against BD b/c I dropped it off of an 800' cliff :oops: :oops: :oops:
I recently noticed a small crack from the back lip a couple of inches long on the current one . Not sure how long it's been there.
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robbovius
Jan 25, 2006, 3:40 AM
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I've had one about a year and a half and it sees all sorts of mishandling. I've dropped it on the ground, bashed it into doorjambs, hit roofs with it on my head climbing up under them and knocked it around in my closet, etc etc. no cracks, no nothin'. my climbing aquaintaces rag on me because I bought the metallic purple.
coming from the world of motorcycles, and having worn those lids 30+years, Climbing helmets don't have anything like enough EPS filler to attentuate the blow from a big headfirst fall, but I wouldn't want to have to climb in even a motorcycle halfsie, weight wise.
maybe if it breaks I'll get another, different lid, but for now my half dome is workin' fine.
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I've known a few guys who had a bad experience with BD standing behind their stuff. Granted, it's great quality, and I'm a big fan, and I have never had anything screw up on me...
Good luck!
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rockrat_co
Apr 16, 2006, 10:38 PM
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In reply to: Mine also cracked but only because I think I ran it over with my car.
You think??? :lol:
Nonetheless,
It must be a specific batch of faulty plastic or something of the sort. I have a friend who caves and climbs with a Half Dome, and its seen no such cracks. He's been using it for about two years now.
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Apr 16, 2006, 10:55 PM
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I've had mine for about 3 years of regular use. Recently I took a 30 foot fall on WI and remember hearing it hit the ice hard. No cracks in the helmet, but Curt thinks I have brain damage.
I also have to max out the chin strap in winter and it's still a little tight and the buckle's wierd cause the doubled over end is under part of the buckle.
I think I'll get a new one when I can work and climb again.
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redlegrangerone
Apr 16, 2006, 10:59 PM
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One of my partners had his on the outside of his pack. When he dropped the pack at the bottom of the climb, it broke in half. Like my Ecrin. :lol:
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treez
Apr 16, 2006, 11:01 PM
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In reply to: One of my partners had his on the outside of his pack. When he dropped the pack at the bottom of the climb, it broke in half. Like my Ecrin. :lol:
Do you mean your Ecrin broke or you like your Ecrin?
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