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"Folks (who often no longer carry hexes) will wax poetic about their cord strung hexes."

I have older BD's that I slung with cord years back and I still use them at least weekly and probably always will... Damned things work great!


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I like my hexes! I rack with the BD hexes that are larger than my metolius and smiley nut set. Also I have carried and used them on alpine climbs so I did not have to carry the weight of my camalots. They are good for things and are worth knowing how to use them. BTW I also carry tricams and find them both useful in their own respect. Haven't found that they are exact replacements for one another though. Gotta have more cowbell!


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noobs are the ones that plug the cam for every
placement because their daddy's trust funds
afford them the allowance to buy two sets
and have a full rack after they've been climbing
for a month.

p.s. i love hexes and they're really nice for the type of
rock i climb...slick quartzite with a little soft sandstone
and those irregular crystals that the curved hexes
deal with ever so nicely. yea, I'm at Devil's Lake.

So did you find hexes in the last 6 days? http://www.rockclimbing.com/...ewtopic.php?t=106901


first, yes I did find hexes in the last 6 days

and second, my friends have hexes
but I'm leaving for college in the fall so
soon I won't be able to bum their pro.


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noobs are the ones that plug the cam for every
placement because their daddy's trust funds
afford them the allowance to buy two sets
and have a full rack after they've been climbing
for a month.

p.s. i love hexes and they're really nice for the type of
rock i climb...slick quartzite with a little soft sandstone
and those irregular crystals that the curved hexes
deal with ever so nicely. yea, I'm at Devil's Lake.

So did you find hexes in the last 6 days? http://www.rockclimbing.com/...ewtopic.php?t=106901


first, yes I did find hexes in the last 6 days

and second, my friends have hexes
but I'm leaving for college in the fall so
soon I won't be able to bum their pro.

Nice call nudge, thought he sounded a bit immature. :wink:

Colin


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noobs are the ones that plug the cam for every
placement because their daddy's trust funds
afford them the allowance to buy two sets
and have a full rack after they've been climbing
for a month.

p.s. i love hexes and they're really nice for the type of
rock i climb...slick quartzite with a little soft sandstone
and those irregular crystals that the curved hexes
deal with ever so nicely. yea, I'm at Devil's Lake.

So did you find hexes in the last 6 days? http://www.rockclimbing.com/...ewtopic.php?t=106901


first, yes I did find hexes in the last 6 days

and second, my friends have hexes
but I'm leaving for college in the fall so
soon I won't be able to bum their pro.

Nice call nudge, thought he sounded a bit immature. :wink:

Colin

are you joking?
you quote my legit reply
and then tell me I'm talking nonsense?

what're you, like, five?
ive used my friend's hexes before
y'know, friends? like climbing partners?
well, maybe you just hit the gym
instead of climbing with people outside.


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what're you, like, five?

No, I don't think Asendr is either, although you might ask him again.

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what're you, like, five?

Isn't this the second time you've asked somebody this?

I'm pointing out the fact that you're a clueless n00b who obviously has no idea what he's talking about. Using a few hexes your friends own doesn't give you the right to criticize people on RC.com who happen to think hexes are relatively useless and wax poetic (or not so poetic) about how those were the original, genuine article old-school hardman pieces of pro that people used before cams were invented, and, incidentally, before you were born! I noticed you saw Asendr's rack on the rack photo thread after asking him if he was five and basically saying that he didn't know what he was talking about. Good call man, good call. I probably really haven't been climbing that much longer than you, relative to some of the other users of this forum, but I know when I know enough about things to talk about them and when I don't know enough. Until you know better, and can refrain from being a tool and shut up. JONG.[/rant]

Colin


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what're you, like, five?

No, I don't think Asendr is either, although you might ask him again.

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what're you, like, five?

Isn't this the second time you've asked somebody this?

I'm pointing out the fact that you're a clueless n00b who obviously has no idea what he's talking about. Using a few hexes your friends own doesn't give you the right to criticize people on RC.com who happen to think hexes are relatively useless and wax poetic (or not so poetic) about how those were the original, genuine article old-school hardman pieces of pro that people used before cams were invented, and, incidentally, before you were born! I noticed you saw Asendr's rack on the rack photo thread after asking him if he was five and basically saying that he didn't know what he was talking about. Good call man, good call. I probably really haven't been climbing that much longer than you, relative to some of the other users of this forum, but I know when I know enough about things to talk about them and when I don't know enough. Until you know better, and can refrain from being a tool and shut up. JONG.[/rant]

Colin

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What is the sound of noobies approaching?
Could that be the wonderful sound of gumby bells?

haha, i can't believe you're serrious in defending that, lololol
oh, an I definitely didn't comment on his rack saying that
he didn't know what he was talking about.

so keep on makin' stuff up.
maybe someone on this site will believe you.
I only commented on it's GINORMOUS SIZE
and that wasn't even his rack, just stuff he owned.

p.s. having used hexes DOES give me the right to comment
on using hexes. oh, and why should I care how old you are?

you're pointing out the fact that I'm a n00b?
keep telling yourself that.

why didn't you anser me when I said that
I've used hexes...frequently, y'know, I have friends.
they own gear. everyone here can't always afford
all their own gear. but hwy didnt you answer me when
i said yes I did find hexes in the last 6 days
and second, my friends have hexes


i've used them before. and you thought your "cyber-sleuthing"
was all bad A*S and cought me in some lie. you loser.

I can hardly believe your inability to follow a simple conversation
even when it is displayed so nicely infront of your amazing
"super detective" eyes. hahah, you're so lame.


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I like my hexes. I used them more than my cams last summer. Maybe I'm crazy and just haven't done enough trad, but I feel much more comfortable above a solid hex than a cam. I guess something about the moving parts just turns me off... I'm sure once one of my cams prevents a crater Ill change my mind.


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"Folks (who often no longer carry hexes) will wax poetic about their cord strung hexes."

I have older BD's that I slung with cord years back and I still use them at least weekly and probably always will... Damned things work great!

I actually set aside my "new" hexes for a set of old cord slung hexes. Like them WAY better for most applications. They go most of the places I go and get used...

hosh.


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I don't think anyone's covered this yet, so I'll chuck in two cents' worth: if you're doing mixed or alpine climbing, hexes are essential gear.

I carry an 8 and a 10 and never, ever leave the belay without them. They have a huge advantage over cams, tricams and even smaller nuts: you can bash them into big cracks with the hammer on one of your tools without needing to worry so much about cleaning ice and muck out of it.

In short, for winter stuff they're can be used like normal nuts but also a bit like pegs. Five star gear!


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They have thier porpoise. And when needed it is a good feeling to know that you have them. Unfortunately with the advent of cams, I've seen the passive art slowly deminish. Saddening. A suggestion, try a "Classic" on passive only. You'll appreciate the history of the climb, esp if you do it old school.

I sometimes carry my hexes on routes that definately do not need them. Alpine stuff is where they really do come in handy, but other times they are worth thier weight in gold, esp if you are trying to hold on to your cams for the belay, where it is nice to plug and go.


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They have their porpoise. And when needed it is a good feeling to know that you have them. Unfortunately with the advent of cams, I've seen the passive art slowly deminish. Saddening. A suggestion, try a "Classic" on passive only. You'll appreciate the history of the climb, esp if you do it old school.

I could not agree with you more.

I hope my pick illustrate this issue OK!

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=70230


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I hope my pick illustrate this issue OK!

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=70230

Sweet, that made me cry just a little. Lets see you do that with 2 cams.


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I hope my pick illustrate this issue OK!

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...p.cgi?Detailed=70230

Sweet, that made me cry just a little. Lets see you do that with 2 cams.

Do you want to see me do it, or do you want to see it work? I'll let you lead :shock:


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Do you want to see me do it, or do you want to see it work? I'll let you lead :shock:

I'll lead, but what do you think I'm going to use as the anchor to bring you up on :wink:


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They have thier porpoise. snip

Flipper??? I guess he was a dolphin!

http://www.crosswindscharters.com/...orpoise--jumping.jpg


:D

couldn't help it, jda! Take care, man!

Brent


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That is quite an awesome stack!!

I don't care much what others have to say, but hexs will always have a place on my rack. (Right between the tricams and the cams) They do come in handy, just ask flipper!!


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That is quite an awesome stack!!

I don't care much what others have to say, but hexs will always have a place on my rack. (Right between the tricams and the cams) They do come in handy, just ask flipper!!

:lol:

A big cam would likely go there, too....but who carries a number 5 with them all the time? 2 hexes are probably lighter and you can get 2 placements out of them.


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I use the three biggest WC hexes all the time. They come in very handy when builiding belays b/c you don't burn up your SLCDs. Also, on lead, I place hexes (and other passive pro) at good rests, saving the SLCDs for more pumpy stances. I would say get em.


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allot cheaper to bail and leave hexs then cams!!!!!!


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Hexes are only good as cow bells so that other climbers can hear you half a mile away. They can probably guess which moderate route you will be getting on too.


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Hexes are only good as cow bells so that other climbers can hear you half a mile away. They can probably guess which moderate route you will be getting on too.


This thread had a couple of very good points in favour of hexes. Did you actually read it???


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I use the three biggest WC hexes all the time. They come in very handy when building belays b/c you don't burn up your SLCDs. Also, on lead, I place hexes (and other passive pro) at good rests, saving the SLCDs for more pumpy stances. I would say get em.

That has to be one of the best reasons/explanations to get hexes that I have seen on this site.
Nicely done.
I wish I could give you a trophy for that one.


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Hexes are only good as cow bells so that other climbers can hear you half a mile away. They can probably guess which moderate route you will be getting on too.

ive used them on everything from a 5.5 upto 11....dont know what you concider to be moderate but they do rule....

as for the ppl that say doont weight anyless if you had to bail off a piece would you rather leave behind a 4 cam or the equal size hex....if you do leave the cam email and let me know where it is


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Rock Centrics, dyneema, 6-9, they do indeed pick up where nuts leave off, they are as good or better than a cam in many instances, and if you climb in rock with highly irregular cracks n horozontals, tricams and hexes are your friends, while your cams might as well be on the ground.

like the man said.

i could go on all day about why i like hexes, but its all been said before, i suppose. ive been carrying my three favorite hexes on all the climbs ive done last couple of weeks, despite having plenty of cams. i place them in spots where basically i need a huge nut. a lot of these times, a cam would walk out and be useless by the time my second found it. but a hex? put it in a good spot, and it'll be right there where you left it.

heres another vote for the dyneema rockcentrics. see my review fer questions.

BS to the tired 'only newbies use hexes' theme.

anthony

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