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if anybody here has used the SBGII with a OP Jake biner?
I was wondering if anyone who has used the combo of the two together has any comments negative or positive. I'm looking for a new belay device that would be less likley to bind up, currently I'm using a ATC. Also is gate loading a issue at all using the Jake biner with the SBGII?


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I'm looking for a new belay device that would be less likley to bind up, currently I'm using a ATC.

Your ATC is 'binding up?' What does that mean?


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what diameter rope are you using to make your ATC "bind up"?


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what diameter rope are you using to make your ATC "bind up"?


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I'd stay away from the SBGII. You can be carrying a full rack around and still the only thing you'll hear is the jangling of that stupid metal stem. As far as performance, it's not remarkable but it definately works.


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if anybody here has used the SBGII with a OP Jake biner?
I was wondering if anyone who has used the combo of the two together has any comments negative or positive. I'm looking for a new belay device that would be less likley to bind up, currently I'm using a ATC. Also is gate loading a issue at all using the Jake biner with the SBGII?
I use the triple locking Jake with the SBGII and I LOVE IT! If I want to feel comfortable with controlling the belay and every part of it I use that. I also love it for repelling. I haven't hard any problems with them. I also like the whole thing about the isoforging that they do there, I just think that is really cool.

Here are photos:
http://www.omegapac.com/..._jake_ophmsq3_lg.jpg
http://www.tradrack.com/...images/eqp223_01.jpg


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I don't know about the belay device, but I use Jake screwgates as my general-purpose utility lockers. They're pretty solid.


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I have used the SBGII several times and my girlfriend has used it almost exclusivly for a year. She likes it a lot, it does not 'bind up' accidentaly at all--I think that is the point. I like belaying with it but do not like rapelling as well as with my Trango Pyramid. (10.5 mm rope)

I alos like the sound it make hanging from my harness--it blends well with the sounds of my hexes and tetons!

CM


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I have that very combo with the twistlock jake, and it works great. I think the jingling can be a little annoying, but the device works good. Also OP has some cool features that you won't find elsewhere like the side opening gate on the Jake which makes for a huge gaping open biner.

Lee G.


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There was a thread a little while back I remember on this... people friggin' hated this device.

Try doing a search on it, you just might find it.

Cheers,
Jim


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Binding Up - not releasing smoothly after catching a fall, being a general pain in ones ass.


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Binding Up - not releasing smoothly after catching a fall, being a general pain in ones ass.

:? Are you sure you're talking about an ATC?

Not a common complaint for sure.


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I like my SBG II. Never had any problem with it. But I use it mostly with my 9.5 rope. I also have never had a problem with binding on an ATC. It sounds as if you are doing something wrong there. Maybe getting twists in your rope?


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Binding Up - not releasing smoothly after catching a fall, being a general pain in ones ass.

:? Are you sure you're talking about an ATC?

Not a common complaint for sure.

I think he's talking about the SBG II...as that's the title of this thread. Where did you get ATC from?

Jim


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Binding Up - not releasing smoothly after catching a fall, being a general pain in ones ass.

:? Are you sure you're talking about an ATC?

Not a common complaint for sure.

I think he's talking about the SBG II...as that's the title of this thread. Where did you get ATC from?

Jim

Uh, he's the OP, and that's complaint about the ATC. Thus, the switch to the SBG II.


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Binding Up - not releasing smoothly after catching a fall, being a general pain in ones ass.

:? Are you sure you're talking about an ATC?

Not a common complaint for sure.

I think he's talking about the SBG II...as that's the title of this thread. Where did you get ATC from?

Jim

Uh, he's the OP, and that's complaint about the ATC. Thus, the switch to the SBG II.

Man, I'm on f*ckin fire! :lol:
I hope y'all take the time stamp and my lack of sleep into consideration before I get branded the idiot I deserve to be....
I thought that post was about the negative things associated with the SBG II, then I was lost where the ATC comment came from....

As Rick James said: Cocain's a hell of a drug.
Jim
wow..........


swervin


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The binding issue has been resolved it was being caused by a narrow biner turning sideways in the ATC. Since I have been using my Jake biner I haven't had the problem. Has anyone who likes the SBG II tried the new ATC Guide? If so which one would you recommend?


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