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lichenmuncher


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I've had all kinds of things get hung up, not this problem though. All part of the learning curve, I guess.

Why would you have a cleaning tool on lead? not something you want to fall on.


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Why would you have a cleaning tool on lead? not something you want to fall on.
always take a nut tool on lead.....incase you man a bojang of a placement and need to clean it.....use it to help clean cracks (dirt/loose rock)...its a back up for the second in case they forget or drop theirs...etc


i get shit tangled with my wire gates all the time...i have about 50 wire gated biners, learning out to rack avoids alot of this...


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have fun


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I managed to clip a belt loop on my trousers as well as gear loop. Was fun when I went to get my nuts :lol:

Do you mean throught the wire itself? Never had that happen, but one reason I don't carry lots of hexes anymore is I got fed up with all the slings on my harness.


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:roll:


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Why would you have a cleaning tool on lead?

Obliviously to score booty gear before your partner gets to it!!!!


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I use to get my wires hung up on the hook of the gate closure until someone told me about a biner Black DIamond. The hook (so to speak) is on the side so the wires come off easily. Unfortunately, I am looking at mine and they do not have a specific name. I'm sure a climbing shop will know what you need if you explain it.


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funny.. i *wont* rack nuts on notchless biners for the same reason some people do.. i had one in my hand and was shaking the rest around so i could place it and the gate must have hit something and 3-4 dropped off. luckily i was near a ledge and only one went the 15 feet to the ground. so i'd rather have to take a bit more care taking it off the biner once it's placed than dropping them off by accident.

i have had things get stuck between the wiregates. things get stuck weird on my harness. ie cam hanging on gear sling.. drops into a gear loop and gets stuck.. that was fun.


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Put one of those BD ice clipper deals on your harness for some real fun!


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Can't say I've ever had that problem with the wiregates... Or known anyone who has.

My partner has a phobia about notches in biners and has gone all notchless. That I've had hang me up a few times but no biggies...

A shitty nut tool though can drive you insane.... Get one without much of a beak and keep it away from everything else...

-Fear


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Dude! you don't clip the biners to your trigger wires.

I'm sure I'm misunderstanding, but I've always used wire gates and never had any hang ups.
I use notchless biners on my nuts, but thats all I've switched.


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euros and some other folks call Nuts Wires.. as in wired nuts.. that maybe where your confusion is ;)


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and sometimes call hexs nuts...just to add to the fun. Try ordering from Needlesports, they seem to change from menu to menu :?


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I've never had a problem with gear tangling with my wire gates. At least I've never really noticed it. Stuff is going to tangle and gear is going to get hung up.

I've had my nut tool get stuck on the pull loop on the back of my shoe before. That sucked. :lol:


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I keep my reverso attached to my belay point while climbing for ease of access and quicker turn overs.

While sport climbing the other day, I had the anchor point of the reverso catch in a quickdraw as I attempted to move past the bolt. And I thought rope drag was bad..........

Brad


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I've had my nut tool get stuck on the pull loop on the back of my shoe before. That sucked. :lol:

You think that sucked? I've had two different partners get the pull loop of their shoe stuck on the biner when climbing past a piece (that is, the pull loop got stuck to the biner that was clipped to the rope). You can't down climb when your shoe is clipped to the piece (unless you want to do it barefoot).


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I've had my nut tool get stuck on the pull loop on the back of my shoe before. That sucked. :lol:

You think that sucked? I've had two different partners get the pull loop of their shoe stuck on the biner when climbing past a piece (that is, the pull loop got stuck to the biner that was clipped to the rope). You can't down climb when your shoe is clipped to the piece (unless you want to do it barefoot).
oh man I just enlarged my hernia :lol:


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ha.. that serves ya right for keeping a belay device in the front like that.. i dont see how people do that a) comfort b) like you said get it stuck on crap. i'd think you could find some speed elsewhere.. like not getting stuck to gear ;)

haha getting clipped into stuff with your shoe would suck..

i was cleaning a pitch at cathedral and was in kind of a weird section and left a cam hanging off the rope.. stepped up a few moves and the cam sunk into a vertical crack.. that was fun to try and clean out.. while getting yanked up by the top rope making it even tighter oyy.. so many weird things can happen


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You think that sucked? I've had two different partners get the pull loop of their shoe stuck on the biner when climbing past a piece (that is, the pull loop got stuck to the biner that was clipped to the rope). You can't down climb when your shoe is clipped to the piece (unless you want to do it barefoot).

Yeah, seen that happen a couple of times :lol: Never on trad routes, though, just bolt ups.

Far as the nuts go, yup, seems like they manage to either get caught on the notch of the carabiner or thread themselves through the gate into some birdnest every time I reach for them. Tricams (I keep two each of the smallest sizes on a single biner) are no better about catching the notch. Thinking, I'm just going to break down and get a dozen new notchless wiregates just for racking purposes.

And, yes, I carry my nut tool with me when I lead. Nothing quite so nice as trying to pull up through an overhang and have your nut tool snag the lip... :lol:

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Edd


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I've had my nut tool get stuck on the pull loop on the back of my shoe before. That sucked. :lol:

:lol: :lol: I can imagine!

I once left a nut tool hanging on the rope in front of me (when following, not leading) and the damn thing went straight for my berries. Tore a half-inch hole in my pants right over my left one.


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I don't rack passive gear on wiregates, I do lead with a nut tool (has gotten hung up) and leave my atc on the belay loop (has never been a prob.)


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i had so many things and a partner some how get clipped to something on me. yeah i don't have any wires my passive except my try-cams, i had a few nuts un-clip before on wires.


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Gear gets hung up on all kinds of shit.

there is a specific issue I have with wiregate neutrinos on my adjustable daisys .. but im too drunk to remeber what it is.


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Had a small cam hanging from my harness get tangled in my shoelaces mid-way up a trad route. When I made my next move, it just cinched down tighter...that was fun. Made me think hard about switching to velcro, but I like my Mythos too well. Was thinking about converting to wiregates later this year for weight - might ought to reconsider, since I haven't had any problem with my Petzel Spirits hanging on anything.

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