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chitowngirl
May 22, 2006, 3:39 AM
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oh, adorable!
Simple people, take your dogs if ya like, keep em under control for the wussies who are scared of em, k?
And I am so sick of people raggin' on pit bulls. Breedism, I tell you! Resist breedism.
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weschrist
May 22, 2006, 3:52 AM
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In reply to: And I am so sick of people raggin' on pit bulls.
I had mixed feelings about bringing them into this. I like 99% of the Pits and Pit mixes I have met. But if some lame ass sissy is going to go around kicking dogs I would rather see them try it with a Pit Bull than a lab. Maybe try kicking a Chow... they are very passive and timid.
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climbsomething
May 22, 2006, 4:02 AM
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(not my dog, but I wish he were)
Somebody PLEASE kick this pit. Please. Not because he's a bad dog but because I have bloodlust and would just love to see the beatdown his owner would administer in return.
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That's a cute birdin' dog, Wes.
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chitowngirl
May 22, 2006, 4:10 AM
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aww, he looks like a sweetie!
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weschrist
May 22, 2006, 4:13 AM
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In reply to: That's a cute birdin' dog, Wes.
He's a squirrelin dawg these days. btw, I believe you two have met yes?
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climbsomething
May 22, 2006, 4:16 AM
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I've seen him zipping around BVB's yard. He may have sniffed my butt at some point.
My dog loves her some Flagstaff squirrels too. I don't let her catch them, but she sure loves to try.
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weschrist
May 22, 2006, 4:25 AM
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In reply to: He may have sniffed my butt at some point.
Good boy. I taught him everything he knows.
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cosmiccragsman
May 22, 2006, 4:54 AM
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Climbsomething Wrote:
In reply to: Treez and cosmic et. al., I am cracking up at your approach to the dog-bashers.
How can anyone hate the cute, adorable, pics of the companions
posted on this forum??? :shock: :D
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reno
May 22, 2006, 5:10 AM
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General thoughts:
1. No such thing as a bad dog... just bad owners.
2. Lots of folks do not know how to behave around dogs, and this can result in a bite. Learn how to show the dog who the REAL alpha is.
3. I've got the best crag dog ever... (mucho thanks to Climbsomething for the photo.)
http://img106.imageshack.us/.../9745/casey108ux.jpg
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treez
May 22, 2006, 5:12 AM
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In reply to: Treez and cosmic et. al., I am cracking up at your approach to the dog-bashers.
They're just lucky I don't have a scanner to delve into my pre-digital days. :wink:
In reply to: That black dog looks huger than huge.
The worst part is he can't jump into my big van anymore. It's hard on the back.
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mowz
May 22, 2006, 5:19 AM
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Your argument of health effects and such is not valid. If someone gets bitten by a dog, you can safely say it will cause no permanent damage? I guess your dog has no teeth that can puncture skin. That's one amazing dog.
Blaming others for your dog's misbehavior is also not quite right. If your dog is bothering someone, it means that the dog was bothered first? Bullshit. I guess your dog just always sits there quietly and doesn't go snooping around nor does it ever go around causing other dogs to bark. Great. Again, your dog is amazing.
And you can't compare dogs to humans. Humans are annoying (I know I'm a shit) because I truly believe we have souls that give us personality. As far as dogs go, they just act according to either learned behavior or instinct; no soul, no personality, no emotion. It's that learned behavior and instinct that causes the dog problems that people have to put up with, but that's a totally different topic.
And what does life skills have to do with getting over past experiences? You don't get over them, you use them and behave according to what you have and haven't experienced and maybe you adapt them to what you already know about life. It's not about getting over them but about how you've adapted. Are you now going to tell a rape victim to "get over it"? And if s/he is permanently distraught by it, you'll say the person has no life skills? I wouldn't. I am not comparing a bad dog experience to rape. I'm simply arguing your comparison of getting over a bad experience to the possession of life skills.
Blaming me for wishing others to suit my desires is calling the kettle black. You're asking those who are opposed to dogs at the crag to put up with dogs at the crag, more precisely your dog.
And I don't hate dogs; I dislike them. Me getting over dogs at the crag has nothing to with hatred. Nowhere have I ever said I hated dogs. Hatred and dislike are two very different animals.
For what it's worth, the only reason I called you shitforbrains is because you called me a dork. It's immature and I own up to it. So why are you now calling me a bitch and a moron and other names that your "weekend daddies" call your mother?
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treez
May 22, 2006, 5:30 AM
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In reply to: As far as dogs go, they just act according to either learned behavior or instinct; no soul, no personality, no emotion.
I beg to differ.
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mowz
May 22, 2006, 5:31 AM
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That's you, but I'll not argue this one here. If you want, start another thread and I'll debate with you.
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treez
May 22, 2006, 5:51 AM
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No need to argue. I know from life experience that I'm right.
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May 22, 2006, 6:31 AM
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In reply to: no personality, no emotion.
:roll: Way to completely discredit your opinions in the eyes of dog owners or any one else that has ever spent any time with a dog. Man, what a stupid stupid thing to say.
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weschrist
May 22, 2006, 2:04 PM
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In reply to: Your argument of health effects and such is not valid. If someone gets bitten by a dog, you can safely say it will cause no permanent damage?
If someone gets hit on the head by a #3 camalot should we ask all trad climbers everywhere to stop bringing their #3's?
You are an idiot. You are comparing proven health risks from 2nd hand smoke to hypothetical situations based on your bias. Of course none of us expect you to be able to realize this.
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weschrist
May 22, 2006, 2:17 PM
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In reply to: Blaming others for your dog's misbehavior is also not quite right.
The point is, I'm not blaming my dog's behavior on anyone because my dog (and many many others) don't misbehave. Sure, they may bother you... but you should realize, you bother me.
In reply to: because I truly believe we have souls that give us personality. As far as dogs go, they just act according to either learned behavior or instinct; no soul, no personality, no emotion.
you are an idiot
In reply to: Are you now going to tell a rape victim to "get over it"?
I know some who have and some who haven't. The ones who have are great people and great to hang out with and I have much respect for them. The ones who haven't have an unmanageable amount of hate in their "souls" and are a pain in the ass to hang out with... much like you I'm sure.
In reply to: You're asking those who are opposed to dogs at the crag to put up with dogs at the crag, more precisely your dog.
Nope, I'm asking them to act like mature adults and tell ME if they have a problem with MY dog. And if they have a problem with any other dog I will be more than happy to help out a fellow dog owner to make everyone's experience, including the dog's, as enjoyable as possible.
In reply to: For what it's worth, the only reason I called you s--- is because you called me a dork.
Retaliation... the mark of a mature, well adjusted person.
In reply to: b---- and a moron and other names that your "weekend daddies" call your mother?
Oh, wow, the last time someone tried to insult me by bringing my mom into an argument was when I was 13 years old.
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sentinel
May 22, 2006, 11:10 PM
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This thread has gone beyond pathetic.
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cosmiccragsman
May 23, 2006, 12:39 AM
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Sentinel Wrote:
In reply to: This thread has gone beyond pathetic
Yes! But the pet pics have been awesome. :D
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May 23, 2006, 3:31 AM
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Sentinel has moved this thread to Pathetic. :lol:
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In reply to: RE: Perfect analogy People can bring dogs to the crags as long as they don't invade other people's space and they pick up the poo. If someone doesn't live up to their responsibilities address them, don't try to ban it altogether. Duh.
There are things called tree trolleys that you can put around a tree for a dog. So I would def take him to some other bluff and tie him to a tree out of the way.
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spunkyjr2
May 23, 2006, 4:18 AM
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I love the silver in your dogs.. Mine is brown and black with a grey beard
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themightyjimbo
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personally, i hate it when people bring llamas to the crag.
really can't trust those llamas.
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do you people feel that a dog never has the right to roam free?
do you think they should be tied up for their entire existance?
were talking about the damn wilderness here. do you want to ban the bugs or how about the rain? the outdoors are full of annoyances. i can see if a particular dog is being a nusance go talk to the owner! but dont expect to go out there and never be bothered, thats just not going to happen dogs or no dogs. your presence is just as irratating to me as my dog is to you.
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