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porkchop_express
Aug 28, 2006, 10:44 PM
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how do people come up with route names, and who makes sure that they dont double up? For instance how would you make sure youre not using a name for a new route that already exists? Im sure there arent copyright infringements but i was just wondering.
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rainontin
Aug 28, 2006, 11:18 PM
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In reply to: ...and who makes sure that they dont double up?
I do.
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pdemers
Aug 29, 2006, 12:06 AM
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After a climber documents a first ascent, he/she contacts the National Alpine Society (NAS) and they allow one to chose a route name from a master list. The process is similar to the way the National Weather Service (NWS) names tropical hurricanes, with each storm in a particular season getting named with the same letter of the alphabet, with each letter cycling through every 26 years. In 2006, all new climbing routes begin with the letter "N."
Hope that helps!
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jred
Aug 29, 2006, 12:18 AM
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There are tonnes of doubled up route names, just not in the same area. The really special routes and multi-pitches usually have well thought out names.
Who cares if a single pitch, zero stars route in the Gunks shares the same name with a route in Squamish or anywhere else?
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fluxus
Aug 29, 2006, 12:37 AM
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In reply to: After a climber documents a first ascent, he/she contacts the National Alpine Society (NAS) and they allow one to chose a route name from a master list. The process is similar to the way the National Weather Service (NWS) names tropical hurricanes, with each storm in a particular season getting named with the same letter of the alphabet, with each letter cycling through every 26 years. In 2006, all new climbing routes begin with the letter "N." Hope that helps!
Actually there is new legislation in Washington this week to change the system to one more like the system used in music publishing / rights granting, which means its more complex. The new bill would make it so that new routes using a name similar to, or the same as an established route name would have to pay a clearance fee to the climbers who put up the older routes. Despite the complexity I think it will be better since it should cut down on routes with ". . .wild ride", "welcome to . . ." or
" . . . semen" in the name.
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climbingtrash
Aug 29, 2006, 12:38 AM
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The names I give climbs are pretty much just bullshit I have pulled out of my arse and the same goes for most climbs. There are, however, those climbs that have names with a story behind them and most are pretty interesting. :lol: :lol:
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chossmonkey
Aug 29, 2006, 1:09 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: ...and who makes sure that they dont double up? I do.
Dude, where were you when they named all the routes at Red Rocks?
THREE "Fear and Loathing"'s! :roll:
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saxfiend
Aug 29, 2006, 2:18 AM
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In reply to: how do people come up with route names
:D
JL
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shanz
Aug 29, 2006, 2:50 AM
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Hrm way too much herbal therapy tonight for me - would call a troll but then again in my mindset im calling anyting a troll minus the next lead grade i can onsight. I say call it what you will - i call it a new experience with a new found love for the next piece of untouched rock. name it what you will i say call it something you treasure for yourself
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talnlnky
Aug 29, 2006, 5:15 AM
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In reply to: Actually there is new legislation in Washington this week to change the system to one more like the system used in music publishing / rights granting, which means its more complex. The new bill would make it so that new routes using a name similar to, or the same as an established route name would have to pay a clearance fee to the climbers who put up the older routes. Despite the complexity I think it will be better since it should cut down on routes with ". . .wild ride", "welcome to . . ." or " . . . semen" in the name.
Does this mean i can't name a route " Welcom to Mr. Semen's Wild Ride" ?
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whitribj
Aug 29, 2006, 7:18 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Actually there is new legislation in Washington this week to change the system to one more like the system used in music publishing / rights granting, which means its more complex. The new bill would make it so that new routes using a name similar to, or the same as an established route name would have to pay a clearance fee to the climbers who put up the older routes. Despite the complexity I think it will be better since it should cut down on routes with ". . .wild ride", "welcome to . . ." or " . . . semen" in the name. Does this mean i can't name a route " Welcom to Mr. Semen's Wild Ride" ?
Sounds like a German Schister Film! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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mcfoley
Aug 29, 2006, 8:23 PM
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:roll:
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rainontin
Aug 29, 2006, 11:22 PM
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Yeah I'm sorry about that. I was on vacation that week and my second in command was strung out on mescaline and adrenochrome the whole time so I had to sub-contract the job out to some dudes in Sri Lanka in order to save enough money to place my deputy in rehab. He's fallen off the wagon several times since, so chances are if a route has a sucky name, it's due to the cost-cutting procedures I've had to go through to keep my staff alive and out of the loony bin.
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svilnit
Aug 29, 2006, 11:29 PM
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In reply to: Yeah I'm sorry about that. I was on vacation that week and my second in command was strung out on mescalin and adrenochrome the whole time.
^^^^^^ Classic quote... need a trophy... anybody got a trophy?!?!??
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Aug 29, 2006, 11:54 PM
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In reply to: ^^^^^^ Classic quote... need a trophy... anybody got a trophy?!?!??
Okay, so color me stupid but what is this trophy thing you all speak of?
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Aug 30, 2006, 4:03 PM
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In reply to: Yeah I'm sorry about that. I was on vacation that week and my second in command was strung out on mescaline and adrenochrome the whole time so I had to sub-contract the job out to some dudes in Sri Lanka in order to save enough money to place my deputy in rehab. He's fallen off the wagon several times since, so chances are if a route has a sucky name, it's due to the cost-cutting procedures I've had to go through to keep my staff alive and out of the loony bin.
Thanks - having an explanation for these things makes them so much more understandable.
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rockguide
Aug 30, 2006, 4:07 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: ^^^^^^ Classic quote... need a trophy... anybody got a trophy?!?!?? Okay, so color me stupid but what is this trophy thing you all speak of?
funny you should ask :lol:
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Aug 30, 2006, 4:49 PM
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Sometimes, I'll name stuff after current situations in my life (Man Eating Bitch, URST "UnResolved Sexual Tension), other times, a pun on something random that poped into my head. Still others, will have something to do with the problem/moves. And when all else fails, I just go to http://www.urbandictionary.com and hit random until something funny pops up. (Fat Carl etc)
-Danno
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Aug 30, 2006, 11:37 PM
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....I like to see crags, or at least sections of crags, with a theme in the way the climbs are named....
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May 21, 2010, 8:21 AM
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porkchop_express wrote: how do people come up with route names, and who makes sure that they dont double up? For instance how would you make sure youre not using a name for a new route that already exists? Im sure there arent copyright infringements but i was just wondering.
I name my routes according to something relevant for the time. I also reuse names.
I move every few years. Every place I move, I seem to establish routes. The first sport route I bolt when in a new location is always the same. "New Drill in Town."
SOme other names:
"Barb's Birthday Route." Bolted in Okinawa on Barb's birthday.
"LAG" Leah Alison Gulette. The girl i was dating at the time, she also liked to relax and nap at the cliff. (Kings Bluff TN)
"Ernita" My wife and the first route she ever climbed. (Indonesia) Yes, her first route, our first date, was a first ascent. Maybe I am obsessed
"White Wedding" and "the proposal" both put up about the time I married my wife in Indonesia.
About a month ago, "Year off the Dragon."
"Caught Red handed" China. Bolted next to my friends route, the Thief. My Buddy said he felt like a thief when I walked up while he was bolting the best looking line on a wall we both found. China
About six weeks ago, I bolted a insipidity crack in fairly soft rock. "Seamstress."
As for the repeat of names. I've climb a dozen routes named the "Nose." It happens.
(This post was edited by guangzhou on May 21, 2010, 8:23 AM)
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airscape
May 21, 2010, 10:56 AM
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Why would you reuse names?
Do you do that with your kids also?
Meet my kids, bob, bob and Applehoneysky.
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angry
May 21, 2010, 12:55 PM
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Not as a dis to you (well, a little one anyway), that has got to be the least creative thing I've ever heard.
For me, I try to make my routes puns that go with the theme of the area or the mood of the climb. I do everything possible to never repeat a route.
Just as I'd never tattoo a girlfriends name on myself, or paint her name on an underpass, I would never name a route after her.
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karmiclimber
May 21, 2010, 1:24 PM
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[quote "maxtrax"][quote]
^^^^^^ Classic quote... need a trophy... anybody got a trophy?!?!??[/quote]
Okay, so color me stupid but what is this trophy thing you all speak of?[/quote]
*starts coloring*
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I_do
May 21, 2010, 2:57 PM
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[quote "rainontin"][quote]...and who makes sure that they dont double up? [/quote]
I do.[/quote]
Is correct, is a shitload of work though, I enter everything into my massive datasheet or spreadbase or whatever it's called.
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jt512
May 21, 2010, 3:37 PM
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saxfiend wrote: In reply to: how do people come up with route names Why do you ask, twodogsfvcking?
This is still a funny response four years later.
Jay
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