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guangzhou
Oct 19, 2006, 10:14 PM
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I am looking for a point and shoot digital camera that has a RAW format or TIFF file capability. I prefer Nikon so I have consistantcy in my file formats, but I will not limit my search to Nikon.
Any advice?
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chanceboarder
Oct 19, 2006, 10:55 PM
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The Fuji Finepix E900 is the only one I know of that supports RAW. I've got an old old Nikon Coolpix 4300 that shoots TIFF that I'll sell ya, only 4MP and works "most" of the time :wink:
Jason
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maldaly
Oct 19, 2006, 11:21 PM
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So why do you want to shoot RAW? There's a terrific overview of RAW v. jpg v. tif here: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm. A lot of photogs seem to want to shoot in RAW because it's complicated and makes them seem like experts. Ken's thoughts are pretty clear on this. BTW, spend some time on this site. TONS of great info here.
Mal
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thegreytradster
Oct 19, 2006, 11:24 PM
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I've got its predecessor the 550. It also accepts an adapter that you can mount a 24mm equivalent, 300mm or a filter. Something most other pocket cameras can't do. It also has a small but still usable optical vewfinder.
I've also handled the 900 and some of my primary gripes about the 550 have been improved, (weak didents on the mode switch, an added switch dedicated to multi exposure mode) using standard AA bats is a big advantage also.
I haven't really experimented with it in RAW mode yet. The results in interpolated 12mp mode are pretty amazing though (6mp base resolution on the 550)Get a 1gig card with it if you go that route.
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melekzek
Oct 20, 2006, 12:55 AM
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macblaze
Oct 20, 2006, 3:59 AM
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In reply to: So why do you want to shoot RAW? There's a terrific overview of RAW v. jpg v. tif here: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm. A lot of photogs seem to want to shoot in RAW because it's complicated and makes them seem like experts. Ken's thoughts are pretty clear on this.
Holy Cr*p this guys got a bee in his bonnet! It's borderline fear-mongering with his JPEGs are forever crud. I looked and nowhere does it mention that jpegs are a lossy format...as in EVERY time you save a file as jpeg you lose some data. Jpegs are fine... hell, jpegs are great, I've used 'em in books, on posters for all kinds of qulaity things but they are definitely not on the same level as tifs or raw. This is the computer age... if you're shooting digital then you gotta think you are going to be editing digital.
Personally I had an old Olympus that shot tiffs and that's what most of our images that we were going to keep were. Out newer cameras... we shoot raw and convert to tiff.
Oh well, each to his own...
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guangzhou
Oct 21, 2006, 10:05 AM
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I don't bother responding to people's post about the Kenrowell site. A waste of time.
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joe
Oct 21, 2006, 5:32 PM
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i know it doesn't fit your preferences (non-Nikon, no TIF), but maybe check out a Canon S70, the predecessor to the S80 (which is JPEG only). they are discontinued but it looks like there are quite a few for sale on ebay. probally find one used at B&H or keh.
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guangzhou
Oct 21, 2006, 10:40 PM
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Joe,
Thanks for the recopmendation. That is an ice camera, but the reaso I need the tiff or RAW format is the file size. My main stock agentcy requires a fairly large file, which JPG don't produce. I also have to submit evrything in TIFF format to them.
I am currently using a DSLR, but it would nice to have something I can permanetly place on hip. So far, the E900 seems pretty nice. I wonder if there's a plug in for CS2 outthere.
Thanks
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dobson
Oct 22, 2006, 12:42 AM
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Have you looked at the Leica D-LUX. It looks like it would easily give you the file size you want.
I know it doesn't help quality, but could you just save a .jpg as a 16-bit TIFF to meet the file size requirements.
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guangzhou
Oct 22, 2006, 9:31 PM
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I have saved some JPG files to TIFF in the past, but the quality lost has a huge effect on the quality control inspection. Of the 40 JPG converted to TIFF file, only two were approve. I normally have 60% file approval.
In the email, the reviewer asked me if I had converted the files from JPG's, so JPG artifact/quality it must have been fairly obvious to him.
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guangzhou
Oct 26, 2006, 9:47 PM
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Thanks for the advice on the Fuji E900. I went to a local shop, here in Okinawa, Japan and played with one. I actually rented one for half a day. A nice camera, very compact and give me the file size I need.
I went on Amazon and bought one. Should be here soon.
I hope that PSCS2 can eventually convert the RAW data, but for now, it's fine.
Thanks
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bdplayer
Oct 27, 2006, 1:01 AM
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Working with .raw or whatever file system your camera uses (my D70 uses .nef) can be pretty rough to go through swiftly, no matter what program you use. That said, I've been using Adobe CS2 for a few months now, and love it. The Bridge feature lets you work directly on the .raw files and go through with a sort of filmstrip view.
Of course, I haven't had time to sit down and go through some of the tutorials to make full use of it, but the features I have learned to use are pretty darn nice. For instance, the nice little save feature lets you choose what format to save your .raw as, as well as what compression, size, etc in the save dialogue box. Nifty.
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guangzhou
Oct 27, 2006, 9:17 PM
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BDplayer,
I love the bridge in CS2 too. Unfortunately, the Fuji E900 is supported in bridge.
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chanceboarder
Oct 27, 2006, 9:36 PM
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In reply to: Unfortunately, the Fuji E900 is supported in bridge.
Jason
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guangzhou
Oct 28, 2006, 9:34 PM
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joe
Nov 16, 2006, 7:40 PM
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like karl, i've been checking out the SD800, but i think it's jpegs only, unless i missed something on the dpreview article.
i have been trying to find a decent wide angle P&S digi to take on long free routes for a couple of years now. i just never found anything that had all the features i wanted (good construction, sharp lens, RAW, wide angle, less than $500), and the one's i did like were quickly discontinued.
so for now i'm just bringing along my old Nikon FM2 with a 24mm lens and shooting film. not as light/compact as a P&S digi but it's a lot more durable and image quality is excellent, providing i get a good scan.
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thomasribiere
Nov 26, 2006, 3:05 PM
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I'm still considering buying a digi camera, so right now I'm looking at photo mags and studies.
A new compact is shooting RAW : the Panasonic DMC-LX2 with a Leica lens( <=> 28x112).
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karlbaba
Nov 26, 2006, 6:47 PM
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thomasribiere wrote: I'm still considering buying a digi camera, so right now I'm looking at photo mags and studies. A new compact is shooting RAW : the Panasonic DMC-LX2 with a Leica lens( <=> 28x112).
Not having an optical viewfinder on the Panasonic is a climbing dealkiller. Having LCD only when shooting outdoors would be murder.
Peace
Karl
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