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kaivalyavarma


Dec 30, 2006, 10:14 AM
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What do you think of attaching a rope sling to waist and connecting it to the belay rope, so that in case if the harness fails due to any reason the rope sling will keep you connected to the belay system. Climber wont be free from the belay rope. Will appreciate suggestions.


bradnicholson


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not sure that would do anything if indeed your belay loop failed.

a better method would be to take a small sling pull it through both leg loops and around the waist band, put a locking carabiner at the point where the thre bights come together and then attach with a prussik or mechanical equivalent. this will provide a second independent check to your belay loop.

in my opinion not enough people back up their reppels.


jeremy11


Dec 31, 2006, 3:26 AM
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in my opinion not enough people back up their reppels.

exactly!! with the backup attached to the brake side leg loop, there is another biner, a friction hitch, and the leg loop totally separate from the belay loop and rap device. so then you'd be left hanging by your leg loop on one friction hitch... lovely storyShocked this is not the main reason to use a backup though - more so if you let go somehow you don't dieTongue


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Dec 31, 2006, 4:11 AM
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a good bigwall rack should double as a chest harness...


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kaivalyavarma wrote:
in case if the harness fails due to any reason
your harness will not fail without giving you quite a bit of advanced warning. as we have been so recently and tragically reminded, what one chooses to do with those warnings may mean the difference between life and death.
when in doubt, retire gear. by retire, I mean destroy beyond use.









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stymingersfink wrote:
I mean destroy beyond use.

you mean hanging it on the christmas tree isn't good enough anymore???


angusmacginny


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I think thats a totally retarded idea. Replace your harness once every 5 or so years and dont worry about it.


bradnicholson


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while it is not the smartest idea i've ever heard and replacing your harness is good practice it is also imperative to back up a repel. esp. descending and esp in the mountains you want independent dual systems as much as possible.


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