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overlord
Dec 22, 2006, 12:17 PM
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just watched it. the first word that comes to mind is bland. not boring, not necessary bad, just lacking that little extra that wouldve made it good.
again, as its usual with fantasy flicks, the plot seems rushed (didnt read the book so i cant comment on it 100%, but it feels rushed) and as such theres no real character development, some leaps. and, again, there are some pretty predictable twists and turns.
the best part of it is the dragon, saphira, voiced by rachel weisz. the only character i really liked. brom played by jeremy irons was also good, but didnt get enough time due to the rushed plot.
all in all, its not bad, just nothing special. good if you dont have anything else to watch. imho it wouldve been better if they allowed 30 more minutes and some more chemistry between eragon and arya.
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thomasribiere
Dec 22, 2006, 12:39 PM
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I heard the same critics around me already. I've so many other movies to see that I'll skip this one.
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kimmyt
Dec 22, 2006, 2:34 PM
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I really wanted to see this, because well I'm a nerd and I love dragons. Then I read some reviews and got all bummed out. I think I'll just go get the books instead.
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overlord
Dec 22, 2006, 2:40 PM
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kimmyt wrote: I really wanted to see this, because well I'm a nerd and I love dragons. Then I read some reviews and got all bummed out. I think I'll just go get the books instead.
well, if you like dragons, youll like it. that was the best part of the movie.
or you can just wait and rent it
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jumpingrock
Dec 22, 2006, 3:26 PM
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Don't bother buying the book(s). Just imagine the Star Wars plot, stick it in the lord of the rings universe and then sprinkle in one or two more dragons.
DISCLAIMER: PLOT SPOILERS!
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"A boy of foggy origins lives with his uncle in a remote place of a vast empire headed by an evil Emperor and his right hand man, who was once prominent in an ancient order of guardians with mystical powers.
Through fate or luck, depending on your point of view, this boy comes into the possession of an object vital to a rebellion against the Empire; this object was inadvertently sent to him by a princess in the rebellion, who had attempted to send said object to an old man who once belonged to the same order of guardians as the Emperor’s right-hand man.
This boy seeks the old man to learn of the ways of this ancient order, but eventually has to return to his uncle’s farm, which, the boy finds, has been destroyed by fire, and his uncle killed. The boy then sets off with the old hermit, who also gives him a sword which belonged to his father. As they travel, they train. The boy meets up with a rogue who is full of surprises, but turns out to be fiercely loyal, for all his proclaimed selfishness. The boy also begins "seeing" a beautiful woman imprisoned and in need of help.
The boy decides that he needs to rescue her, even though he doesn't know her; further, he thinks of her only as beautiful (Luke's first words are, "Who is she? She's beautiful?" Eragon can't stop thinking about her beauty). Long story short, the old hermit dies to protect the boy, the boy and the rogue help the beautiful damsel escape.
They then set off to the rebellion to give important information and return the object which the princess had sent the boy. They were followed by the Empire, and prepare for a giant battle that will either save the rebellion or annihilate them.
The boy proves his worth with heroics during the battle, but his crowning achievement is his destruction of a noun of much power that has the ability to destroy lots of things. The boy is aided in this by one of his friends, who arrives at precisely the right moment.
The boy is lauded a hero.
The boy has a hallucination of a powerful master who can teach him more of the ancient order. The boy travels to the powerful master to learn the ways of the ancient order's mystical power. While there, he grows very powerful. While he is away, the Rebellion regroups in a new area.
Just when the boy is on a roll with his training, and has grown very powerful, he has a vision of his friends in great danger. He decides he must go to help them. His master warns him not to go. The boy promises that he will return. He leaves.
He finds his friends just in time and is able to distract the enemy so that his friends will remain safe. He finds out that his father was the right-hand man of the Emperor--his father was the one who betrayed the ancient order and helped kill them.
The boy is shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed. He finds out that someone dear to him has been taken by evil people, and promises to find this person.
Now, is that the plot of [Eragon], or StarWars?"
http://www.anti-shurtugal.com/starwars.htm
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kimmyt
Dec 22, 2006, 3:29 PM
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overlord wrote: well, if you like dragons, youll like it. that was the best part of the movie. or you can just wait and rent it
Yes, well I also like movies that don't suck.
So, therein lies the problem.
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lena_chita
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Dec 22, 2006, 3:37 PM
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jumpingrock wrote: Don't bother buying the book(s). Just imagine the Star Wars plot, stick it in the lord of the rings universe and then sprinkle in one or two more dragons.
Well, if you are adult-- yes, I agree. But it isn't meant to be an adult book, in case you missed it. Teen lit at most. My 8 yo read it last year and liked it a lot. And I liked it well enough, too, if you keep the above point in mind...
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Dec 22, 2006, 10:19 PM
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I might have to go see something a little more culturally uplifting like,
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miademus
Dec 22, 2006, 11:31 PM
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....i didn't like the trailer and the story at all, the critics are just the same i thought...i wont watch it probably,
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traddad
Dec 23, 2006, 1:44 AM
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I just took my 6 year old to see it. She liked it.
My review: Cheap, shallow, cloying, trite, formulaic. Kind of the "Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill" of movies
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j_ung
Dec 23, 2006, 3:24 AM
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traddad wrote: I just took my 6 year old to see it. She liked it. My review: Cheap, shallow, cloying, trite, formulaic. Kind of the "Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill" of movies
Word. And I thought the same about the book. What is it with fantasy writers? Is there nothing at all new? I swear, all you have to do is write, "elf," and everybody knows what you're talking about; no need to describe it. "Dwarf?" same thing. Even dragon riding has been done to death.
They're all cheap clones of the one true fantasy epic: The Lord of the Rings.
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zozo
Dec 23, 2006, 4:47 AM
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Dragons are'nt real.
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styndall
Dec 23, 2006, 8:03 AM
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j_ung wrote: traddad wrote: I just took my 6 year old to see it. She liked it. My review: Cheap, shallow, cloying, trite, formulaic. Kind of the "Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill" of movies Word. And I thought the same about the book. What is it with fantasy writers? Is there nothing at all new? I swear, all you have to do is write, "elf," and everybody knows what you're talking about; no need to describe it. "Dwarf?" same thing. Even dragon riding has been done to death. They're all cheap clones of the one true fantasy epic: The Lord of the Rings.
Disclaimer: I haven't read the book or seen the movie.
I was pondering going to see the movie, and I read a little about it on rottentomatoes. Apparently, the author of the book was 15 when he began his book, and presumably not much older when he finished it, whence the amateurish construction.
Fantasy novels do seem particularly prone to this sort of cliched, hackneyed style, which is why I've largely given up on the genre. However, now and again, a real gem comes along.
Look up China Mieville's Perdido Street Station. It doesn't get prominent shelf-space at the stores, since it's lacking entirely in the elves and dwarves and shit that makes the fanboys drool, but it's astounding in its creativity and thorough imagination.
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zeke_sf
Jan 1, 2007, 12:08 AM
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I made fun of "Lord of the Rings" so hard, it made some supergeek puke all over the counter. Where do we keep the mop and bucket so I can make Elias clean it up?
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melekzek
Jan 1, 2007, 12:32 AM
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speaking of fantasy, i cannot wait studio ghibli's take on the earthsea
Le Guin, she is da man !!!11
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coastal_climber
Jan 1, 2007, 12:51 AM
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You should try the game. Its crappy.
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overlord
Jan 1, 2007, 6:09 PM
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coastal_climber wrote: You should try the game. Its crappy.
maybe, but i really like ghiblis work.
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coastal_climber
Jan 1, 2007, 9:39 PM
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overlord wrote: coastal_climber wrote: You should try the game. Its crappy. maybe, but i really like ghiblis work.
The controls sucked.
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carabiner96
Jan 1, 2007, 10:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the author of the eragon books was a teenager when they wrote them...so what if they aren't wells or tolkien, getting yourself published and made into a majoy motion picture is no small feat.
The author is laughing her way to the bank as you pick the kernels out of your teeth...
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lewis1350
Jan 1, 2007, 11:43 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: I'm pretty sure that the author of the eragon books was a teenager when they wrote them...so what if they aren't wells or tolkien, getting yourself published and made into a majoy motion picture is no small feat.
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