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teddyp324


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I found plans online on how to make your own ice wall, it involves making molds and filling them with snow, packing it down and spraying it with water. Has anyone made their own ice wall, and if so how did you make yours? It seems like a fairly simple plan and I have a friend on the local Vol Fire Dept. who can come over and spray it down for me to. All I need is some snow but it would keep me busy during my Feb break. What I really want is to convince my town to let me set a big one up on the town green... Dont know how that would go though.


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it would go well until someone axed their eye out :P

good luck!


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teddyp324 wrote:
I found plans online on how to make your own ice wall, it involves making molds and filling them with snow, packing it down and spraying it with water. Has anyone made their own ice wall, and if so how did you make yours? It seems like a fairly simple plan and I have a friend on the local Vol Fire Dept. who can come over and spray it down for me to. All I need is some snow but it would keep me busy during my Feb break. What I really want is to convince my town to let me set a big one up on the town green... Dont know how that would go though.

Good luck on that... I can't even begin to fathom the possible liabilities for setting one up in a public place.


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That is the only big issue... The local rock gym is run by the town rec dept so they could moniter it some weekend and charge all the yuppies going to Killington to try it.


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im sure you have seen this, but this is a great site: http://www.alaskanalpineclub.org/...l/04-05IceWall3.html


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Hang a string from a tree and set a hose there too. Let it drip drip drip....it works.


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I've built something this year but it hasn't been cold enough to grow any ice. The next several nights should be better. Stay tuned for pics and details.


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check this out it will answer many questions
http://www.alaskaalpineclub.org/...l/04-05IceWall1.html


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if using the string method (hang a string, start a drip of water to flow down the string and let it freeze), how much water would it require to make a pillar of sufficient size to climb (3 feet in diameter or so?) that is like 20-30 feet high?

Just wondering....I don't think it's cold enough here to justify it with ice a 15 minute drive away. But still......just wondering how much it would drive the water bill up.


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There's less than 2000 gal in a 3'dia x 30' pillar. If you lose 3 gal for every gal that freezes, it's still less than filling an typical above ground pool. Around here that's maybe $40 of water.

But I'd use a rope instead of string. A strong rope.


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gunkiemike wrote:
I've built something this year but it hasn't been cold enough to grow any ice. The next several nights should be better. Stay tuned for pics and details.

OK, here's the most ghetto ice wall in town:





It has an alarming tendency to melt away from the board at even modest temps and/or sunshine. It would suck to be on this when it slides down the board. That's party why there's an uneven surface on the face of it.

A nice slow drip (say 2 drops/sec) builds nicely at night but the tubing (and before that, the cooler filled with water) will freeze. Faster flow keeps the water liquid but a lot runs off and it cuts a bit of a channel up top.


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here's a homemade ice "wall" that my friends made...

great practice piece....especially for my first time on ice!! Cool

btw, sorry - i tried to embed the photos.......any help?


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gunkiemike


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Gowser...damn! Cool


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yeah, it's an awesome set up!!!

some great ice too - they used 3 sprinkler heads on the main tower and also a head on another pole to give some side features. unfortunately the weight of the ice snapped the 2x4 for that one....

a great training ground!


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i've seen ice walls set up with a wood frame. then hang chicken wire, add water.


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Don't forget about the amount of water that you are going to have melting into your neigbors lawn and basement.


kman


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gowser wrote:
here's a homemade ice "wall" that my friends made...

great practice piece....especially for my first time on ice!! Cool

btw, sorry - i tried to embed the photos.......any help?

That is pretty sweet.


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It's "in" !



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nice Mike!

what do you use for water at the top?


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anykineclimb wrote:
nice Mike!

what do you use for water at the top?

I ran 1/8 inch vinyl tubing out from the laundry sink. At the end I poked a bunch of pinholes, and plugged the end. It sprays out pretty far so I slide the thing into a length of 1 inch aluminum pipe which has holes drilled in the bottom. That contains the spray and spreads it out. The pipe is screwed to a board that I can position at any point along the top - farther out or closer in, left side or right. Finally, full pressure builds in the tube immediately and that makes too much water come out - I guess I poked too many holes. So I put a small vice grip on the tube to restrict flow. A needle valve would be preferred for this.




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That is an engineering marvel, I want one.


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