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cindylou
Mar 15, 2007, 5:42 AM
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A couple of my partners were descending Redgarden Wall in Eldo after completing a multi-pitch climb. They both (at different times) caught their nut tool in the loop of one of their climbing shoes and came dangerously close to pitching off the trail.
Both of them have since cut the loops off their shoes. I happen to like my loops; have grown quite attached to them in fact and find them useful.
Does anyone have a solution? Or a creative way of storing the nut tool out of the way during the downclimb?
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petsfed
Mar 15, 2007, 6:10 AM
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I dunno, clip the nut tool directly to the harness as opposed to using a long sling? Cutting off the loops on their shoes seems a little drastic for such an easy solution. And now getting the shoes on is gonna be harder.
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TheDullEnd
Mar 15, 2007, 6:11 AM
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Oh man, I've done that on route, I'm glad/sad to hear I'm not the only person that's happened to, you'd think the odds of it happening would be really bad.
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moditup
Mar 15, 2007, 6:22 AM
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The best thing I've seen was a second who was climbing with a camelback hydration pack. They have those little plastic loop things on the shoulder pads, so with an arms length of sling, attach a nut tool, tie it to the loop, then clip it with a tiny toy carabiner to the plastic clip. Its out of the way, and only takes an extra second to get out. I don't use a pack like that, so i use a longer sling, but do the same thing from my harness.
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jgivens
Mar 15, 2007, 6:54 AM
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I have always toyed with the idea of getting one of those retractable cords that companies use for ID and pass-cards, the kind that clips to your shirt. The card is attached by a spring-loaded tether and allows you to swipe it, then it retracts. I always though this would be a good answer to the nut-tool problem. Instead of having it hanging on your harness, which is sometimes a pain to find when you need it, and it can get caught on your shoes. A spring loaded tether would make it very accessible and keep it out of the way when you dont need it. Maybe clip it to the front of your shirt, or a sternum strap.
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bent_gate
Mar 15, 2007, 7:02 AM
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I have this nut tool and simply re-clip it to my harness after each use. Even with a tether, I find I need to re-clip it to my harness or gear sling after each use to avoid potential problems of it hanging free.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/gear/Detailed/3435.html
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drfelatio
Mar 15, 2007, 7:33 AM
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Instead of cutting your loops off completely, just cut them so they are no longer a loop.
The retractable ID holder thing is a good idea. Or maybe a beefier one built for keys?
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louielouie
Mar 15, 2007, 10:24 AM
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I've been using an all metal version of a retractable badge holder for years. Wire instead of a nylon line.
I have no idea why anyone would use anything else. Bought it from my local gear pusher.
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reno
Mar 15, 2007, 6:53 PM
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cindylou wrote: Does anyone have a solution? Or a creative way of storing the nut tool out of the way during the downclimb?
http://www.climerware.com/ntool.shtml
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summerprophet
Mar 15, 2007, 8:29 PM
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Wow, retractrable badge holders, extensive knot wraps, cutting up your shoes.
Anyone here ever heard of a pocket? They aren't just fingerholds ya'know, they are also these nice bag things on your clothing if you spend the big bucks. Look into it ..... seriously.
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cindylou
Mar 15, 2007, 9:57 PM
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Lots of great suggestions. Thanks!
I was envisioning something like a holster or pocket protector. Thoughts? Comments?
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Mar 15, 2007, 10:03 PM
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cindylou wrote: Lots of great suggestions. Thanks! I was envisioning something like a holster or pocket protector. Thoughts? Comments?
Yes if you now up with a nut tool in your scabbard people will laugh at you.
But you could whip it out... HA SAH! And chop those nuts right outta da wall, like Samauri sushi chef!
DMT
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cindylou
Mar 15, 2007, 10:14 PM
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Dingus: Thanks for the laugh!
I suppose the ridicule would be unbearable.....
Has anyone ever seen a switchblade nut tool?
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geezergecko
Mar 15, 2007, 11:24 PM
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cindylou wrote: ...Has anyone ever seen a switchblade nut tool?
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fearlessclimber
Mar 16, 2007, 1:56 AM
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put a cap on the end of it so it doesnt catch anything
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squamishdirtbag
Mar 16, 2007, 2:10 AM
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This topic make me think of hacking my gators with the pons, so easyly avoidable.
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al_piner
Mar 16, 2007, 3:27 PM
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Heavy duty rubber bands are cheap to come by . Not foolproof but stops 90% of snags .
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unrooted
Mar 16, 2007, 3:39 PM
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I just put it down my pants, perferably down the back, cause then if it does get caught on something then it makes me happy.
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markc
Mar 16, 2007, 4:20 PM
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drfelatio wrote: Instead of cutting your loops off completely, just cut them so they are no longer a loop. The retractable ID holder thing is a good idea. Or maybe a beefier one built for keys?
I use a retracting keyring with a coated metal wire. It clips onto my chalkbag belt, and I have a simple back-up using one of my wife's hair elastics. While leading, I have it rotated back by my chalkbag. I adjust it forward a bit while seconding, and never have to worry about fumbling my tool or it getting in the way.
I wouldn't want to have my tool tethered to the front of my shirt. I can see it really getting in the way.
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newtrad
May 28, 2007, 10:46 PM
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markc wrote: I use a retracting keyring with a coated metal wire. It clips onto my chalkbag belt, and I have a simple back-up using one of my wife's hair elastics. While leading, I have it rotated back by my chalkbag.
what is the brand and model of your retractable device ?
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markc
May 29, 2007, 12:44 AM
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newtrad wrote: markc wrote: I use a retracting keyring with a coated metal wire. It clips onto my chalkbag belt, and I have a simple back-up using one of my wife's hair elastics. While leading, I have it rotated back by my chalkbag. what is the brand and model of your retractable device ?
Sorry, I don't know the make or model. I believe I bought it from Home Depot. I was primarily concerned with easily backing it up and getting one with sufficient reach. I'd suggest just going to the store and checking out a couple models.
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dr_feelgood
May 29, 2007, 12:57 AM
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markc wrote: newtrad wrote: markc wrote: I use a retracting keyring with a coated metal wire. It clips onto my chalkbag belt, and I have a simple back-up using one of my wife's hair elastics. While leading, I have it rotated back by my chalkbag. what is the brand and model of your retractable device ? Sorry, I don't know the make or model. I believe I bought it from Home Depot. I was primarily concerned with easily backing it up and getting one with sufficient reach. I'd suggest just going to the store and checking out a couple models.
Try this.
http://www.narescue.com/...r-Leash-P76C132.aspx
Oh and if anyone needs some badass trauma gloves, try the black talon gloves on the site.
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jakedatc
May 29, 2007, 1:42 AM
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when i'm cleaning i sometimes leave it clipped to the rope above my tie in knot. I have it wrapped with some 3mm cord but generally don't undo it.
I think it's weird the OP's friends were hiking off in their climbing shoes..If I hike off i'm either in approach shoes/sandals or barefoot. sure as hell not going to kill my climbing shoes.
i see people walking around in their shoes.. clearly not getting ready or just after a climb and wonder why folks like to destroy the soles like that.
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tradrenn
May 30, 2007, 2:39 AM
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I use this one:
I don't even bother with a keeper cord anymore ( what a PITA that was ) if I need to I either clip it to the rope or a sling, just to make sure I don't drop it.
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evanwish
May 30, 2007, 7:57 AM
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i found it east just to use elastic streachy chord and attach it to the back of my harness
the nut tool dangles about 6 inches off my harness but will streach about 4 feet. it's really handy and never getts in the way (plus you never have to unclip it so you will never drop it! )
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