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BRoberts97
Mar 27, 2007, 3:01 PM
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Thanks to everyone for all their great information and comments about rope. Another question I have, what knots should I learn to tie? I know how to tie a figure eight and a clove hitch knot. Now I'll just practice tying them until I can tie them without thinking. I also know I should practice tying with gloves on, wet, cold, etc.
Thanks for your input in advance!
Climb On!
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granite_grrl
Mar 27, 2007, 3:11 PM
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Munter hitch ( and how to use it), fishermens.
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cchildre
Mar 27, 2007, 3:15 PM
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Munter Mule, butterfly, double figure eight, triple figure eight, climbheist, prussik
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kevinwaldock
Mar 27, 2007, 3:15 PM
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fig 8 and overhand knot on a bight are important, as is the clovehitch for equalizing. I would say learn how to belay with a mutner in case u ever drop a belay device. Learn the purissik (sp?) which is handy to ascend a rope/back up a rappel. I also learned how to body rappel (hurts like a bitch) in case you ever drop a rapple device.
as for learning stuff get a 2-3 ft long piece of cordette or equivalent and constintly tie knots on the bus in traffic when yer watching tv etc.... Remeber it is better to know a few usefull knots really really well then a whole wack full of knots cappily.
Kevin
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yorb
Mar 27, 2007, 3:53 PM
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Study the shape of the knots you know, how the rope curves, where it crosses, where it goes through a loop, etc. if you can tie the knot in your head then you should never have a problem tying it with a rope.
Find out what these terms are: standing end, working end, overhand loop, underhand loop, bend, bight, elbow (off the top of my head). Then if you can verbally explain how to tie the knot, then you REALLY know it.
(i'm not saying that you have to be able to do all of this before you can tie a knot in a climbing application.)
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jammer
Mar 27, 2007, 4:14 PM
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Buy a book on climbing knots, a couple of pieces of rope and pratice ... it's that simple.
After you have learned them well enough to tie them on demand, do them in the dark; with cold hands; one handed; in the shower ... others care to add ...
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redpoint73
Mar 27, 2007, 4:43 PM
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Don't forget the all-important 50/50 knot.
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monkeyarm
Mar 27, 2007, 4:53 PM
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The first thing you should focus on is the monkey fist. Not because of its vast array of practical appplications, there are almost none for climbing purposes, but mainly because its just fun.
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dynoho
Mar 27, 2007, 5:06 PM
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http://www.animatedknots.com/
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mikebarter387
Mar 28, 2007, 11:41 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/...e?user=mikebarter387
There is enough here to get you started. Browse through the 60 or so vids. Most of the knots mentioned are covered. There are also bits for glacier travel and rock climbing
Mike
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shockabuku
Mar 28, 2007, 1:37 PM
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Figure eight follow through
Clove hitch
Prussik
Munter
Half hitch
Girth hitch
Water knot
Double overhand
Bowline
Butterfly
and all their permutations.
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gb3985
Mar 30, 2007, 10:32 PM
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I wondered when someone was going to say bowline
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stymingersfink
Mar 31, 2007, 12:01 AM
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gb3985 wrote: I wondered when someone was going to say bowline
Personally, I tie in with that knot each and every time. Since fewer people are familiar with it (it seems these days), it's more difficult for your partner to verify it's tied correctly (or so the common wisdom says).
If one is going to make a habit of using it, it would be wise to educate oneself about the limitations of using it. ie: great knot for two directional pull, potentially deadly when used to pull in three directions. Kinda like a biner under tiaxial-loading, come to think of it.
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shockabuku
Mar 31, 2007, 1:32 PM
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I don't use it as a tie-in often but I particularly like the bowline on a bight for a two piece anchor attachment.
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gb3985
Mar 31, 2007, 2:04 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: gb3985 wrote: I wondered when someone was going to say bowline seems people hate that knot, at least don't want to teach it. Personally, I tie in with that knot each and every time. Since fewer people are familiar with it (it seems these days), it's more difficult for your partner to verify it's tied correctly (or so the common wisdom says). If one is going to make a habit of using it, it would be wise to educate oneself about the limitations of using it. ie: great knot for two directional pull, potentially deadly when used to pull in three directions. Kinda like a biner under tiaxial-loading, come to think of it.
I also tie in with it EVERY time.I think it is a very easy knot to tie,and untie easy.It is good for anchors,tieing in holding/hualing a load or pulling your truck out of the mud.
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knudenoggin
Apr 2, 2007, 8:44 PM
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gb3985 wrote: I wondered when someone was going to say bowline
as some archived ones) over the pond at UKclimbing.com--to wit, see:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=234858
where I tried to address the large number of knotting myths that get
built up by repetition.
*kN*
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catbird_seat
Apr 9, 2007, 7:12 AM
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Here is some advice that may make it easier for you to tie any knot you want to learn. I've taught many people how to tie knots and I've learned from watching them.
For many knots, and the bowline is a good example, you form a loop or loops and pass an end in and out and around those loops. Use your dominant hand for manipulating the tail and use your non-dominant hand for holding the loops.
One reason why many people have trouble is that they don't manage to get a good grip with their non-dominant hand. They aren't supporting the "loops", as I've referred to the static part of the knot.
The trick is to pinch the two strands (of the loop) together where they cross by using thumb and forefinger. If you figure this out early on, every knot you tie will go easier.
Yes, you still need to remember which goes over and around what, but at least you'll have a solid foundation from which to work.
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yarik3381
Apr 11, 2007, 3:46 PM
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The Bowline is my favorite
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tallmark515
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prussik, butterfly knot, munter hitch (+ 1 handed variation), double (and triple) fishermans, water knot.
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